Posted on 01/09/2005 9:48:36 AM PST by Trueblackman
Except he didn't say "juws."
Well you might want to have me send you the cleaned up version.
LOL
Did you read my link?
I did a good amount of research on this. It was my understanding that during the hearings that the civil rights commission had, they were unable to find anyone, or hardly anyone, forget which that had been unable to vote because they were on the felon list.
If this is incorrect and you can give me a reliable source I will change my whole write up. Certainly I have heard nothing like what your describing about tens of thousands of people.
On a side note, and I guess unlike you, I was a liberal democrat in 2000 and so was rooting my heart out for Gore to win. :)
Funny how things change!
"If you want to see the true face of evil, look at Jesse Jackson and the rest of the black Dem political class. They know what they are doing to their fellow blacks, and they are doing it for their own profit"
Well, I disagree on that one. I think the people who tend to say kind of thing that are completely removed from Democratic circles. Being in Chicago, I rub shoulders with a lot of black politicos and players. A few of them go to my church, which is one of the biggest in the city. Jesse Jackson lives here, so I know a lot of people who work with him, and I have met him a couple times. I'm generally teased for being "the Republican," which is fine -- it's all in good fun, and let's face it: around here, I'm an anomoly.
My sense is that, aside from the general sense of self-interest that's present in all ambitious people, especially politicos, these people think they're doing the right thing. There's real passion in some of these folks. Sure, some of them are total hacks -- I'd put Congressman Bobby Rush (former Black Panther) in that category. But again, there are just as many Republican hacks.
I think we need to get beyond attributing evil motives to people with different beliefs. Instead, we should argue passionately about why we're right and they're wrong. We should argue that freedom means the possibility of failure as well as success; that government coercion, being involuntary, is more oppressive than corporate power; that teaching people to blame others helps no one in the end; that this country's greatness lies not in some imagined guarantee of equal outcomes but in the potential for creative, motivated individuals to carve out a slice of America to call their own. These are values that can resonate with both Democrats and Republicans. We just need to make sure blacks hear our side of the story a little more often.
I was looking back thru the posts and I have to agree with you to a degree, at least the crack is "self imposed". Whether it is actually worse than the plantation system you referred to, that I don't know and cannot be sure that I agree. The difference of course is the fact of being "self imposed". One would also argue it's not self imposed but rather imposed on young and stupid people before they are able to make wise decisions. I am not inner city, here in the country we have meth, I think it's quite similar but mostly I blame the availability to young people, like I said, who are not yet wise enough to realize the choice they are making. I am looking for your insight and wisdom, how do we keep this out of the hands of the youth? I have a son, 23, currently off meth only because he's in jail right now. Probably started about 16. I am afraid he's too far gone other than a very long treatment program or banishing him and others like him to an island where they can't get this stuff. It's such a pity people who could be so wonderful (he's normally a very kind and congenial person whom people flock to) have to be ruined by this stuff. I guess I'm just venting, I really don't expect you to have the answer as you apparently deal with these problems every day. It's just such a shame society in general must deal with this.
You were a liberal Dem then? That's funny. What a quick turnaround!
I did read your link. I've done a lot of research on this, too. A guy named David Bositis, who is a researcher at the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies, did some research showing that Katherine Harris's purge program was discriminatory. He was referring not only to the tens of thousands of non-felons who were kept off the rolls, but also to felons from other states who, according to Florida law, maintained the right to vote but were chucked from the rolls anyway.
There were also some internal government documents that, though published in that left-wing rag "The Nation," are pretty clear that names were "capriciously" removed from the rolls but resolving the problem would be bad PR, so it wasn't to be done. A left-wing journalist named Greg Palast -- with whom I disagree on every political issue imaginable -- has done pretty good investigative work on this. If I were you, I'd read his stuff and mentally delete all the nauseating editorializing. Just look at his facts and nothing else. It's pretty convincing.
I've actually looked at some pages of those purge lists. You've got people purged for crimes they committed in 2007, people who had previously voted but suddenly lost their right in 2000 despite not committing a crime...
Look, again, I just want to win fair and square. And in 2004 we did, so I'm not complaining.
By the way, what caused you to come over from the Dark Side?
Kevin, that was probably you best post ever?
I am looking forward to meeting you in DC at the Ball.
From a Friend of mine:
Hi Linda;
Thanks! And thanks to Debbie.
I recall the harassment from the black community against Colin
Powell and other community leaders that have succeeded in life
and have been instrumental in helping to lead all people into a
more understanding, helpful and tolerant way of life. I recall that
many of these successful leaders were chastised because they were
not black enough but catered to white society. The charge often
lead by Jesse Jackson and other prominent Democratic "leaders."
Most recently Bill Cosby, in an effort to help his people, was
attacked by black "leaders" for stating truth and reality, and
suggesting steps to be take to help reverse the terrible life
style and conditions that much of the black community resides.
The Hispanic community has also been used in a similar fashion.
But without the very vocal activist like J. Jackson, B. Boxer, and
others, has been less effective. I believe this will change in future
elections and we'll see similar loud, vocal activist Democrats
using the Hispanic community.
Thanks again Linda and Debbie, and especially the author.
Bob
Didn't he say juice?
by teh way stop felling persecuted christinas,. and slo rightists,
Maybe it's cats.
I tyhoughter hiss spyellung wass pyretdy weller.
I, too, feel more weariness than anger.
For a cat. Maybe it's a Siamese.
I had a siamese when I was young. She would walk up and down the keys on the piano at night. Maybe this siamese has access to a PC keyboard.
Siamese cats are smarter than some people.
True.
bump
But it's still hard to type with paws, no matter how smart you are :-).
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