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AG Nominee Gonzales on Illegal Immigration (Confirmation Hearing Excerpts)
New York Times ^ | 01-06-2005 | Federal News Service

Posted on 01/08/2005 11:54:30 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus

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To: NewRomeTacitus

Apparently it is all right to be an illegal alien, as long as you are otherwise a "law-abiding citizen."

Maybe I could be a swindler, or a burglar, but otherwise a "law-abiding citizen." Why pick on me because of my one little illegality?

The argument seems to be that it is too much of a challenge and a bother for the police to have to enforce the laws, and they get along better with ethnic communities if they just leave them alone for some home-grown mafia to run.


41 posted on 01/09/2005 7:30:08 AM PST by docbnj
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To: bayourod; All
bayourod ducks and won't answer a post when he is a bald faced liar.
42 posted on 01/09/2005 7:45:51 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (expert, break it down, ex = has been, spurt = drip under pressure.)
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To: joesnuffy

I'm praying for Bush to slip and play the race card, but knowing that he can be disciplined at times it will probably be some of the OBL henchmen who slip that perjoritive into the debate.


43 posted on 01/09/2005 8:04:45 AM PST by junta (junta, "is one uppity cracker")
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To: NewRomeTacitus

Kennedy, Leahy, and Specter. I didn't even want to read this, but I did.

Gonzales is a disaster. Anyone who kisses Kennedy's rear end isn't fit to be elected dog catcher...


44 posted on 01/09/2005 8:05:59 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl
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To: NewRomeTacitus
Ladies and gentlemen, your new top law enforcement officer of the United States. Johnny, I'm already missing you.

Yeah, and if you think Gonzales is going to fire those radical fag DoJ lawyers who perpetrated the "Philadelphia Four" you can forget it. We wouldn't want to jeopardize the crucial "Log Cabin" voting bloc (all 12 of them).

45 posted on 01/09/2005 8:50:10 AM PST by montag813
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To: dalereed
He's a one world socialist, born in a family that believes that, and was so raised!

This needs to be repeated because it's true! Why don't more people realize this?

46 posted on 01/09/2005 8:52:30 AM PST by janetgreen
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To: kingu

FYI



Going Underground - Barron's
The shadow economy is about to top $1 trillion -- at a great cost to many

By JIM MCTAGUE

AMERICA HAS TWO ECONOMIES, and one is flourishing at the expense of the
other. First, there's the legitimate economy, in which craftsmen are
licensed and employers and employees pay taxes.

Then there's the fast-growing underground economy, where millions of nannies, construction workers and others are paid off-the-books, their incomes largely untaxed.
The best guess as to the size of the output of this shadow economy is about $970 billion, or nearly 9% that of the real economy. It should soon pass $1 trillion.

What is largely fueling the underground economy, experts say, is the
nation's swelling ranks of low-wage illegal immigrants. -snip-very long.


http://groups-beta.google.com/group/soc.culture.romanian/browse_thread/thread/1bb41897c2797fca/a037432e6e83160d?q=%22The+Underground+Labor+Force+Is+Rising+to+the+Surface%22&_done=/groups?q=%22The+Underground+Labor+Force+Is+Rising+to+the+Surface%22%252


47 posted on 01/09/2005 9:20:15 AM PST by JustAnotherSavage (Government spends what government receives plus as much as it can get away with-Milton Friedman)
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To: bayourod
"He's a one world socialist, born in a family that believes that, and was so raised! "

That tells us everything we need to know about you.

Namely, that he discerns reality far better than you do?

By the way, your "anecdote" has got to be one of the biggest fish stories I've heard in a long time. Tells us all that anyone needs to know about you.

48 posted on 01/09/2005 9:37:17 AM PST by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: NewRomeTacitus
they might be undocumented aliens, but otherwise lawful citizens.

Amazing --- an AG who doesn't know what the definition of "citizen" is --- unles they've already redefined it to mean "world citizen" --- who are under the authority of "world government". This guy sounds like a very dangerous globalist.

49 posted on 01/09/2005 10:12:21 AM PST by FITZ
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To: montag813; All

FYI, in case you missed it.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1316831/posts?q=1&&page=1

L.A. Mexican congressional office may not be legal
L.A. Daily News ^ | 1/7/04 | Rachel Uranga

Posted on 01/08/2005 1:08:02 PM PST


50 posted on 01/09/2005 10:26:26 AM PST by JustAnotherSavage (Government spends what government receives plus as much as it can get away with-Milton Friedman)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
You have called me a bald face liar. I don't appreciate that type of personal attack.

You made your accusation in response to my post #8.

What part of post #8 is a lie?

51 posted on 01/09/2005 11:16:36 AM PST by bayourod (The states and cities with large immigrant labor pools are the prosperous ones.)
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To: bayourod

Read my post #35 and either you or your friend is telling a bald faced lie!


52 posted on 01/09/2005 11:21:36 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (expert, break it down, ex = has been, spurt = drip under pressure.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
No. I said the incident happened on the plane returning from the Detroit convention. The Detroit convention was in 1980. That was where Reagan/Bush were first nominated.

You might have known Louis LeMont, he lived between Conroe and Huntsville.

53 posted on 01/09/2005 11:27:09 AM PST by bayourod (The states and cities with large immigrant labor pools are the prosperous ones.)
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To: NewRomeTacitus
they might be undocumented aliens, but otherwise lawful citizens

Skuze me? He's gonna start this crap already... They're actually gonna do it....going to push us from dissent to outright rebellion.

54 posted on 01/09/2005 12:47:10 PM PST by 1_Inch_Group
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To: 1_Inch_Group

The American public has been greatly "misunderestimated" if a few of these OBL's believe we will just shut up and let this invasion continue.


55 posted on 01/09/2005 1:07:42 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage (Government spends what government receives plus as much as it can get away with-Milton Friedman)
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To: All; HuntsvilleTxVeteran; dalereed; NewRomeTacitus; B4Ranch; Travis McGee; Squantos; ...
This bayourod "character" is a fraud, and as HuntsvilleTxVeteran says in #35; "a bald face liar"

Their is no way bayourods story is true, about his friend sitting next to George W Bush on an airplane, coming back from the 1980 Detroit Republican convention.

No anonymous person is going to get anywhere near George W. Bush, and start in on a tirade about the Bush family.
NO WAY!
In 1980, Goerge H. Bush 41 senior was a VP candidate.
Which means George W 43 had secret service protection.
Bayourods story is an outright lie.
His story (Post# 13) below:



"I had a friend who believed like you. We was obsessed with telling everyone he met about the Bushes being one world socialist traitors. People would hide when they saw him coming just to avoid his Trilateral Commission/CFR anti-Bush tirades.

On the plane back from the Detroit convention he started in on the passenger sitting next to him.

After about thirty minutes of listening to his crap, the man turned to him and said "Do you know who I am? I'm George W. Bush". George said every head on my friends head stood straight up, he turned to face forward and never said another word."






http://www.secretservice.gov/ud.shtml

Title 18, Crimes and Criminal Procedures
Sec. 3056. Powers, authorities, and duties of United States Secret Service
(a) Under the direction of the Secretary of the Treasury, the United States Secret Service is authorized to protect the following persons:

...the Vice President and members of the immediate family; and... Major Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates........
within 120 days of the general Presidential election, the spouses and families....
56 posted on 01/09/2005 1:12:13 PM PST by FBD (Report illegals and their employers at: http://www.reportillegals.com/)
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To: FBD

What?? Are you saying Bay hasn't had dinner with Kay Bailey and all those others he's mentioned before??

FROBL?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1314180/posts


57 posted on 01/09/2005 1:52:32 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage (Government spends what government receives plus as much as it can get away with-Milton Friedman)
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To: JustAnotherSavage; FBD
And don't forget being a personal buddy of the late Lee Atwater (the man Karl Rove wishes he could aspire to).

I met Atwater, Bush Sr., Henry Kissinger and quite a few others while serving as head of security for Nashville's City Club during their Distinguished Lecture series. Mr. Atwater struck me as a man consumed by a mission to relegate liberals to the "dustbin of history", having known far too many wastrel idiots in his musician circle spouting nonsense. That such a driven and focused young man as he would voluntarily seek the advice we hear coming out of Rod is utterly laughable.

58 posted on 01/09/2005 2:16:18 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus (The saner I become the madder I get.)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

Blech!


59 posted on 01/09/2005 2:17:41 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: JustAnotherSavage; All

I be saying exactly that.

Between his having had hundreds of employees, owning restaurants, kibitzing with front page politicians, and what ever other exploits he's claimed to have done,
bayourod would have to be about 150 years old, by my calculations!

He also holds a very low opinion of blue collar jobs, and or what most minorities might aspire to be in life.
In bayourods own words:
See here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1301995/replies?c=67
“We see brown skinned men building our highways, repairing our autos, replacing our roofs, mowing our lawns, washing our cars, serving our dinners, collecting our trash,”

Here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1302385/replies?c=145

Here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1302385/replies?c=138

And here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1302385/replies?c=54


60 posted on 01/09/2005 2:19:37 PM PST by FBD (Report illegals and their employers at: http://www.reportillegals.com/)
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