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1 posted on 01/08/2005 5:25:54 AM PST by Gengis Khan
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Anyone ever proposing boring holes in these volcanoes to start alleviating the pressure a LITTLE at a time


2 posted on 01/08/2005 5:28:30 AM PST by uncbob
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I am absolutely sure that our European friends and our Muslim buddies will be in a race to offer us help in our time of need.................................[NOT!!]


3 posted on 01/08/2005 5:28:32 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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Does that mean the Kennedy compound will be flooded????


4 posted on 01/08/2005 5:31:04 AM PST by Route101
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Get Ted another drink on that news.....


5 posted on 01/08/2005 5:32:00 AM PST by Route101
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This is the umpteenth time this issue has arisen.

I detect some wishful thinking.


7 posted on 01/08/2005 5:34:06 AM PST by OpusatFR
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Will America be tnext to go under?

These guys don't think so:

http://www.sthjournal.org/media.htm

Nor do they:

http://www.drgeorgepc.com/TsunamiMegaEvaluation.html


8 posted on 01/08/2005 5:37:08 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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9 posted on 01/08/2005 5:38:01 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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We're Doomed!
13 posted on 01/08/2005 5:39:54 AM PST by peyton randolph (CAIR supports TROP terrorists)
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Sigh...guess I have to post this again...

THE TSUNAMI SOCIETY


MEGA TSUNAMI HAZARDS
January 15, 2003


The mission of the Tsunami Society includes "the dissemination of knowledge about tsunamis to scientists, officials, and the public". We have established a committee of private, university, and government scientists to accomplish part of this goal by correcting misleading or invalid information released to public about this hazard. We can supply both valid, correct and important information and advice to the public, and the names of reputable scientists active in the field of tsunami, who can provide such information.

Most recently, the Discovery Channel has replayed a program alleging potential destruction of coastal areas of the Atlantic by tsunami waves which might be generated in the near future by a volcanic collapse in the Canary Islands. Other reports have involved a smaller but similar catastrophe from Kilauea volcano on the island of Hawai`i. They like to call these occurences "mega tsunamis". We would like to halt the scaremongering from these unfounded reports. We wish to provide the media with factual information so that the public can be properly informed about actual hazards of tsunamis and their mitigation.

Here are a set of facts, agreed on by committee members, about the claims in these reports:

- While the active volcano of Cumbre Vieja on Las Palma is expected to erupt again, it will not send a large part of the island into the ocean, though small landslides may occur. The Discovery program does not bring out in the interviews that such volcanic collapses are extremely rare events, separated in geologic time by thousands or even millions of years.

- No such event - a mega tsunami - has occurred in either the Atlantic or Pacific oceans in recorded history. NONE.

- The colossal collapses of Krakatau or Santorin (the two most similar known happenings) generated catastrophic waves in the immediate area but hazardous waves did not propagate to distant shores. Carefully performed numerical and experimental model experiments on such events and of the postulated Las Palma event verify that the relatively short waves from these small, though intense, occurrences do not travel as do tsunami waves from a major earthquake.

- The U.S. volcano observatory, situated on Kilauea, near the current eruption, states that there is no likelihood of that part of the island breaking off into the ocean.

- These considerations have been published in journals and discussed at conferences sponsored by the Tsunami Society.

Some papers on this subject include:

"Evaluation of the threat of Mega Tsunami Generation From ....Volcanoes on La Palma ... and Hawaii", George Pararas-Carayannis, in Science of Tsunami Hazards, Vol 20, No.5, pages 251-277, 2002.

"Modeling the La Palma Landslide Tsunami", Charles L. Mader, in Science of Tsunami Hazards, Vol. 19, No. 3, pages 160-180, 2001.

"Volcano Growth and the Evolution of the Island of Hawaii", J.G. Moore and D.A.Clague, in the Geologic Society of America Bulletin, 104, 1992.

Committee members for this report include:

Mr. George Curtis, Hilo, HI (Committee Chairman) 808-963-6670

Dr. Tad Murty, Ottawa, Canada, 613-731-8900

Dr. Laura Kong, Honolulu, HI, 808-532-6422

Dr. George Pararas-Carayannis, Honolulu, HI, 808-943-1150

Dr. Charles L. Mader, Los Alamos, NM, 808-396-9855

and all can comment on this or other tsunami matters.

For information regarding the Tsunami Society and its publications, visit: www.sthjournal.org.

For general and educational material on tsunamis, check: www.tsunami.org.


20 posted on 01/08/2005 5:44:53 AM PST by Strategerist
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22 posted on 01/08/2005 5:49:41 AM PST by Fintan (Story of my life...3 guys, 2 girls.)
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Thanks for the post. I was going to work out at the gym this morning to get rid of the holiday pounds....but after reading this, I won't have to go.

I love it. "The tsunami is coming!" will be my all around excuse for the New Year!


33 posted on 01/08/2005 6:01:03 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Support our troops!)
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I saw an interview with McQuire and even he admits that it probably wouldn't happen for another 5 or 10 THOUSAND years.

It if happens at all.

Most 'scientists' are inclined to think that volcanic eruption would only cause the land mass to slide into the ocean and more than likely breakup in the process.


35 posted on 01/08/2005 6:25:29 AM PST by Bigh4u2
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While the theory in regards to that volcano on La Palma is quite controversial, there is also a similar threat to the US West Coast, too. Geologists have discovered that a portion of the eastern half of Hawaii's "Big Island" have suffered serious landslide collapses into the sea in the past, and given that the "Big Island" is volcanically active even today, there is the possibility of such a landslide collapse into the sea in the future. If such a collapse occurs the resulting tsunami could threaten the entire shoreline of the eastern Pacific Ocean.
42 posted on 01/08/2005 7:03:50 AM PST by RayChuang88
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This is just more "Chicken-Little" reporting from idiots who were born without brains. Let's stop a moment and think about the damping effect of a tidal wave traveling between 2 and 3 thousand miles across open ocean. Like ripples across a pond, those tidal waves would be severely dampened by the time (if ever) that they reached the American east coast. Europe has far more to fear from this volcano exploding than America does.

Look at the impact of the tsunami on Somalia, versus its impact on Aceh Banda or Sri Lanka. Also, I think that the configuration of the ocean bottom also impacts how the tsunami responds at the surface. The configuration of the bottom of the Atlantic is substantially different from Bay of Bengal and the Arabian Sea.

So, in the FWIW Dept., I think this is just more "Chicken-Littles" scaring themselves into hysteria over an event that is simply too "what-iffy" to worry about. Or, in the words of the esteemed Bard, "Much ado about nothing".


46 posted on 01/08/2005 7:26:12 AM PST by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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I smell a plot for a movie...


52 posted on 01/08/2005 8:46:20 AM PST by aquila48
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What - earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes and floods not good enough for ya?


55 posted on 01/08/2005 10:19:54 AM PST by AmericanChef
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DOOMED!!!
57 posted on 01/08/2005 11:07:43 AM PST by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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Only if Michael Moore goes off the high dive again...


59 posted on 01/08/2005 11:14:49 AM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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The premise of this story has been thoroughly debunked on these pages.


64 posted on 01/08/2005 11:39:18 AM PST by wireman
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misery loves company alert.


73 posted on 01/11/2005 6:53:03 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (Leftists Are Losers.)
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