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Kennedy Sister Dies At 86
AP ^ | Friday, January 7, 2005 | LOLITA C. BALDOR

Posted on 01/07/2005 7:46:11 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

WASHINGTON -- Rosemary Kennedy, a sister of John F. Kennedy who was born mentally retarded and lived most of her life in an institution after undergoing a lobotomy, died Friday, her family said. She was 86.

Kennedy, the inspiration for the Special Olympics spearheaded by the Kennedy family, had been a patient since 1949 at St. Coletta School for Exceptional Children in Jefferson, Wis. She was the third child and first daughter of Joseph and Rose Kennedy, born a year after her brother became president.

In 1941, Joseph Kennedy, worried his daughter's mild mental retardation would lead her into situations that could damage the family's reputation, arranged for Rosemary to have a lobotomy. She was 23.

"Rosemary was a woman, and there was a dread fear of pregnancy, disease and disgrace," author Laurence Leamer wrote in his book "The Kennedy Women: The Saga of an American Family." He wrote that Rosemary, whose retardation possibly stemmed from brain damage at birth, had taken to sneaking out of the convent where she was staying at the time.

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KEYWORDS: deadlib; drooler; goodriddance; kennedy; kennedyfamily; mentalhealth; obituary; retard; rosemarykennedy
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To: Maigret

BS!!!!!

Rose was scum, and was well aware of every move Joe made. She was her father's daughter, and at times, was the ward healer for Joe's crew.

I mean, really, Joe married down when he married trash like Rose, knowing what I am aware of.


61 posted on 01/07/2005 8:18:05 PM PST by lavrenti (Think of who is pithy, yet so attractive to women.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
He wrote that Rosemary, whose retardation possibly stemmed from brain damage at birth, had taken to sneaking out of the convent where she was staying at the time.

Some of her basic human instincts were not lost in the lobotomy. Can you blame her for wanting to get out of that environment?

62 posted on 01/07/2005 8:18:11 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace (Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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To: Graybeard58

Yep. At 7, he hadn't figured out how to jimmy the lock on the liquor cabinet yet, so driving held no allure for him.


63 posted on 01/07/2005 8:20:01 PM PST by Luddite Patent Counsel
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To: The Greek

Rosemary was a Rose Fitzgerald job. Joe was the Jew-hating anti-Semite, Rose handled family matters.


64 posted on 01/07/2005 8:21:06 PM PST by lavrenti (Think of who is pithy, yet so attractive to women.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
In 1941, Joseph Kennedy, worried his daughter's mild mental retardation would lead her into situations that could damage the family's reputation

It is to laugh. Reputation?

The only Kennedy I have respect for is the potato-digging great-grandfather. He was the last of the family to hold an honest job.

His son was a Nazi and a bootlegger. The bootlegger's sons were crooked pols, one of them a drunk and a murderer, and another a compulsive womanizer and drug addict. The next generation include another murderer, as well as a rapist, a child molester, and too many drunks and drug addicts to keep track of.

The whole family are lice. If the poor lobotomized daughter had fled the convent and become a five-dollar whore, she would have been the best of the bunch.

Too bad that fat, drunken, thieving, leering, murdering Ted didn't get a lobotomy in his youth too.

-ccm

65 posted on 01/07/2005 8:21:35 PM PST by ccmay (Question Diversity)
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To: silent_jonny

I amazed too- I thought fer sure no-one was allowed to say "retarded" anymore. Nowadays everyone's just "challenged".


66 posted on 01/07/2005 8:22:00 PM PST by visualops (It's easier to build a child than repair an adult.)
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To: ken21
schwarz leaves the impression that rose was involved too. and, that joe kennedy was frustrated by his daughter's emerging sexuality and wanted to thwart it. but he didn't mind his sons' sexual escapades, including a lifelong relationship with lem billings by jfk, described in a full-page footnote.

The book, The Kennedys in Hollywood - by Lawrence J. Quirk, a Kennedy family confidant, clearly states that Joe did this to this daughter against Rose's wishes, and that there was a rift in the marriage for months afterwards.

67 posted on 01/07/2005 8:22:06 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace (Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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To: West Coast Conservative

68 posted on 01/07/2005 8:22:53 PM PST by Porterville (Never compromise what is right. Take your time to insult a liberal or have one unemployed.)
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To: ken21
joe kennedy was frustrated by his daughter's emerging sexuality and wanted to thwart it. but he didn't mind his sons' sexual escapades,

Joe Kennedy had a very 'European' attitude toward women, and passed it down to his sons. Woman were there for their pleasure, and you didn't have to limit yourself to just one, even if you ended up getting married.

He had very 'European' attitudes about other things as well. When he was Ambassador to the Court of St. James (England), he was good friends with Edward, the Duke of Windsor and the Duchess of Windsor, and they were all very 'tolerant' of the Nazis.

69 posted on 01/07/2005 8:23:07 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: ken21
It would be difficult to get a doc to perform a lobotomy on a "slutty" adolescent of normal intelligence even back then. It would have been against their oath. Plus, one would think the adolescent would have been curious. I would have. And after having asked some "probing' questions of the old man about his little planned operation for me, and been unsatisfied, would have sought advice of lawyer, preferably a Brahman who hated Old Joe, and notified the DA, and then the press. I would allow nobody to F with my brain, other than myself.
70 posted on 01/07/2005 8:23:08 PM PST by Torie
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To: Luddite Patent Counsel

BWHAHAHAHAHA!!!! The family was so proud the day he learned to dive. He was cool though. He just walked away like it was nothing.


71 posted on 01/07/2005 8:23:47 PM PST by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual. If they sense scorn and ridicule, they'll flee..)
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To: SamAdams76

according to the schwartz book that i mentioned earlier in the thread, joe kennedy invested heavily in manipulating the u.s. press.

interesting in the schwartz book was joe's investment in a hollywood movie company. the owner didn't want to sell, so joe set him up with a prostitute who claimed the owner took advantage sexually of her. charges were filed. the owner sold his movie company to joe. and later inexplicably, the woman committed suicide. or, "kennedycide".

god only knows, but the kennedys suck.


72 posted on 01/07/2005 8:23:59 PM PST by ken21 (if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen! (/s))
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To: Maigret
"I read long ago that this was another thing Old Joe Kennedy just did and then told Rose about it."

Yeah, I remember that too, and I also remember reading that for all the hideous cr-- Joe dished out, that was the ONE thing Rose never forgave him for. A lot of that stuff was written around when Rose died.

73 posted on 01/07/2005 8:24:09 PM PST by oprahstheantichrist
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To: West Coast Conservative
She was the third child and first daughter of Joseph and Rose Kennedy, born a year after her brother became president.

How could she be born after her brother became president and be 86?

74 posted on 01/07/2005 8:26:34 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Deplorable and disgusting does not go far enough is this terrible episode in the Kennedy family history.
I've read enough of these various Kennedy books to question whether Rosemary was retarded in any manner at all. She seemed to be a very high strung girl brought up under the thumb of her parents and was a little rebellious.
In any event Old Joe Kennedy has a frontal lobotomy preformed on his own sweet child and condemned her to hell for the rest of life. There isn't enough that can said about this evil crime, just another one in a long line that seems to be infinite. I hope Old Joe and Rose are rotting in hell for this.
75 posted on 01/07/2005 8:26:42 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Torie

i agree.

but we're looking at it in hindsight.

joe invested heavily in manipulating the media, so the truth may never be known.

do me a favor, go to the library and check out this book and read it, and let me know what you think:

Joseph P. Kennedy : The Mogul, the Mob, the Statesman, and the Making of an American Myth
by Ted Schwarz (Hardcover - September 5, 2003)


76 posted on 01/07/2005 8:27:18 PM PST by ken21 (if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen! (/s))
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To: West Coast Conservative

"Rosemary Kennedy, a sister of John F. Kennedy who was born mentally retarded" for a second I thought...


77 posted on 01/07/2005 8:27:32 PM PST by TBall
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To: Torie
Gee, I just heard her name entered in to a radio show death pool yesterday.

Power mad dems are about on the level as ROP terrorists.

78 posted on 01/07/2005 8:27:47 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: ccmay
No, no, tell us what you really think.
79 posted on 01/07/2005 8:29:39 PM PST by silent_jonny (Happy New Year!)
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To: Former Dodger

And to think we were talking about this just 15 minutes ago....


May she Rest in Peace.


80 posted on 01/07/2005 8:29:58 PM PST by fastattacksailor (The US without the UN is like not having your mother-in-law with you on your honeymoon)
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