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Proposed Bill in Virginia will make you a criminal if you fail to report a miscarriage.
Virginia State Legislature ^ | 1/7/04 | James Cosgrove

Posted on 01/07/2005 5:06:58 PM PST by SilentServiceCPO

Be it enacted by the General Assembly of Virginia:

1. That § 32.1-264 of the Code of Virginia is amended and reenacted as follows:... When a fetal death occurs without medical attendance, it shall be the woman's responsibility to report the death to the law-enforcement agency in the jurisdiction of which the delivery occurs within 12 hours after the delivery. A violation of this section shall be punishable as a Class 1 misdemeanor.

(Excerpt) Read more at leg1.state.va.us ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Virginia; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; government; govwatch; libertarians; miscarriage; policestate; privacy; toomanylaws; vageneralassembly
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This text is from a proposed bill that will be sent to the House floor in Virginia on 12 January. Rep. Cosgrove's Bill will make it a crime if a woman fails to report a spontaneous miscarriage to the Police within 12 hours. The punishment is 12 months in jail and a $2500 fine. I can't fathom this complete invasion of privacy. The required data you must submit includes Name, SSN, marital status, race, and education level of the mother as well as the weight, age, and sex of fetus. Rep. Cosgrove has reportedly stated that the purpose of this bill is to prevent "trashcan babies" that women may abandon after birth, but that doesn't make sense; this bill specifically staes that it applies only to a fetus that is born dead, and it doesn't make any differentiation as to the age of the fetus. In addition, other portions of the bill require doctors or medical examiners to file reports if they are involved, but they get 24 hours and there are no criminal penalties for them if they fail. One final insult, if you choose to "end the pregnancy" (kill the baby legally), then you get to retain your privacy, the abortion clinic will file the report and they get to leave out your name and personal data. This Bill can't be allowed to pass. I am stunned by this from the guy that represents me in the State Assembly and he will get an email box-full. If any other Virginians agree, you can email Rep Cosgrove at Del_Cosgrove@house.state.va.us
1 posted on 01/07/2005 5:06:59 PM PST by SilentServiceCPO
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To: SilentServiceCPO
That is a stupid bill and it is stepping on peoples privacy, you have to practically tell your whole life's story. I'm glad I live in Michigan and not Virginia
2 posted on 01/07/2005 5:16:23 PM PST by Nina89
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To: Nina89

Yeah! Michigan doesn't have any stupid laws.


3 posted on 01/07/2005 5:19:25 PM PST by spower
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To: Nina89

stupid not only because of the privacy issue...

talk to any woman who is a mother and you'll find that at least 50% seem to have miscarried at least once...

you can't even see a doctor until after the third month...unless you are a high risk, etc.


4 posted on 01/07/2005 5:19:47 PM PST by bitt
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To: Nina89

What if you don't know about it? I had a grandma who passed away, after the autopsy they found a calcified fetus in her uterus. Gross, but it was never born. Don't know how long it was there?


5 posted on 01/07/2005 5:19:56 PM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens.)
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To: SilentServiceCPO

Does it include miscarriages of justice?


6 posted on 01/07/2005 5:21:27 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" HRC 6/28/2004)
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To: SilentServiceCPO
When a fetal death occurs without medical attendance, it shall be the woman's responsibility to report the death to the law-enforcement agency

Nahhh...stupid law.

7 posted on 01/07/2005 5:21:45 PM PST by Rudder
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To: bitt

Think about this... Who do you report this to? Does a cop show up while you are still in terrible pain, cramping and bleeding, to take "just the facts". And think of the 21 year old young wife, her Sailor or Soldier husband out to sea or standing duty, having to face a gruff, impersonal police officer in the middle of the night all alone. If she waits 12 hours until her husband comes home, then she is a criminal.


8 posted on 01/07/2005 5:24:24 PM PST by SilentServiceCPO
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To: SilentServiceCPO
Lunacy of government to the nth degree.
9 posted on 01/07/2005 5:24:55 PM PST by afnamvet
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To: SilentServiceCPO
What idiocy.

In the first place, most miscarriages are in the first week or two of gestation and the woman often doesn't know that she is pregnant or that she miscarried.

In the second place, it's none of their damned business.

SO9

10 posted on 01/07/2005 5:28:22 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Goldwater Republican)
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'I am stunned by this from the guy that represents me in the State Assembly and he will get an email box-full. If any other Virginians agree, you can email Rep Cosgrove at Del_Cosgrove@house.state.va.us'

Wonder what the women who work in his office had to say as they were 'typing up' his little Bill?

"Hey Del!! Are you nuts???"


11 posted on 01/07/2005 5:28:46 PM PST by bitt
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To: SilentServiceCPO
Its nonsense like this coming from pro-lifers that will allow the abortionists to paint pro-lifers even more as extremists.

The people trying to get this bill passed are cut from the same cloth as the rabid-drug warriors, and those who want to create a federal censorship commision. These authoritarians are the most damaging to the conservative movement.

12 posted on 01/07/2005 5:30:58 PM PST by rmmcdaniell
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To: SilentServiceCPO

I think Rep. Del has been taking stupid pills. This is beyond ridiculous. Hope you folks in Virginia will let him hear about it.


13 posted on 01/07/2005 5:34:42 PM PST by pepperdog
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To: rmmcdaniell

Exactly, Very well said. I actually first saw this following a link from a link from a link... and saw a comment about it posted on a "less than conservative" site with some disparaging commentary about Republicans. While I can't agree with 99.9% of what else I saw there, this really struck a chord with me, both because of the privacy issue and because it reflects so poorly upon what I know and believe in my heart to be true conservatism. If we don't hold the line against some of the more radical elements ourselves, we risk getting lumped in with them and all painted as extremists.


14 posted on 01/07/2005 5:43:00 PM PST by SilentServiceCPO
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To: SilentServiceCPO
Does anyone besides Cosgrove support this bill? As you point out the one exception is if there is an abortion by a doc, then that's fine, nothing has to be reported.
15 posted on 01/07/2005 5:43:54 PM PST by Teslas Pigeon
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To: Teslas Pigeon

The bill as posted on the VA State web site doesn't list any co-sponsors, but it got through commitee and is going to the House floor on Wednesday.


16 posted on 01/07/2005 5:48:38 PM PST by SilentServiceCPO
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To: SilentServiceCPO
"this bill specifically staes that it applies only to a fetus that is born dead"


I believe it is meant to apply only to deaths after the twentieth week.

In the legislation that allowed for birth certificates for children born dead twenty weeks was some kind of cutoff from the Board of Health for fetal deaths.

I admit the law doesn't seem clear about that though.

17 posted on 01/07/2005 5:51:52 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: bitt

Phone his office. Sometimes the staff just ignores e-mails.
It's also effective to write a letter. This is nuts. How did it ever get out of committee?


18 posted on 01/07/2005 5:53:08 PM PST by ladylib ("Marc Tucker Letter to Hillary Clinton" says it all.)
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To: mrsmith
In VA a baby dead before 17 weeks is considered a miscarriage. After 17 weeks it's considered 'born dead' and a death certificate has to be issued.

So says my wife who is an RN here in VA, and is also pregnant lol.
19 posted on 01/07/2005 5:55:48 PM PST by KoRn
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To: SilentServiceCPO
This is the current law in Virginia and it only concerns live births and abortions, not miscarriages. To wit:

§ 32.1-264. Reports of fetal deaths; medical certification; investigation by medical examiner; confidentiality of information concerning abortions.

Why don't you send a letter of apology to pro lifers and Cosgrove and stop frequenting "kill'em on the way out" websites.

20 posted on 01/07/2005 5:56:37 PM PST by jwalsh07
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