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Ending the Evolutionary War
Mackinac Center for Public Policy ^ | Jan. 6, 2005 | Andrew J. Coulson

Posted on 01/07/2005 2:42:22 PM PST by Ed Current

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To: PatrickHenry

Poing...


21 posted on 01/07/2005 4:55:55 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Ichneumon

Yeah. Might as well deploy the list ...


22 posted on 01/07/2005 5:00:14 PM PST by PatrickHenry (The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: VadeRetro; Junior; longshadow; RadioAstronomer; Doctor Stochastic; js1138; Shryke; RightWhale; ...
EvolutionPing
Not a list for the creationism side of the debate. See the list's description in my freeper homepage. Then FReepmail to be added/dropped.

23 posted on 01/07/2005 5:01:39 PM PST by PatrickHenry (The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: so_real
Isn't this a "republic"? If the majority in the community

That would be pure democracy. Mob rule.

24 posted on 01/07/2005 5:04:52 PM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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To: ExtremeUnction
I see no reason to debate the issue.

I hear you, but yet its debated. Perhaps my wife and I have a unique perspective, as she is molecular biologists, and we are both Evangelicals.

I have no problem with the schools teaching the scientific theory of the continuing evolution of species as science. It is, I think, well established, and to a large degree testable by scientific experiment.

However when talking about the origins of life itself, and the universe through the big bang "theory" we are in the realm of pure speculation or to the modern secular list a matter of faith...and herein lies the reason we are still debating this whole issue; the secularists are seeking to elevate their faith in these things to the status of what can be scientifically verified thus demoting alternative faiths to the status of quaint disproved superstition. Moreover they want to accomplish this through controlling what children are taught rather then debating it with other adults.

Just part of the secularists establishing their own state religion in which the "Creator" (a higher moral authority then themselves) is not allowed.

25 posted on 01/07/2005 5:18:48 PM PST by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: Ichneumon
The lead article has a link to a website with an excellent discussion about the goals of "Discovery Institute" and the ID movement. Great information here:
One Nation, Under the Designer.
26 posted on 01/07/2005 5:19:33 PM PST by PatrickHenry (The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: so_real

Science is not a popularity contest.


27 posted on 01/07/2005 5:22:34 PM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: Junior

"Science is not a popularity contest."

Unless scientists want to be funded.


28 posted on 01/07/2005 5:28:13 PM PST by beavus
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To: judywillow
Christianity has a proven ability to survive without government support and even in the face of government harassment. Evolution hasn't a prayer of passing that same test.

You are wrong. Rational parents will always want their children to have the best education possible, including understand science. If you want to educate yours differently, so much the better for ours.

29 posted on 01/07/2005 5:41:40 PM PST by balrog666 (I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world.)
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To: Ed Current
Regardless of the creation v. evolution debate, I want all school tax money to go to education vouchers.

If you don't have school aged children, you could use them yourself in a college or sell them on the open market.
30 posted on 01/07/2005 5:45:05 PM PST by Forgiven_Sinner ("There's not another country in the world . . . that could have produced a Pat Tilman."--Ann)
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To: beavus
Civility isn't about who is right. It is simply about how people are treated, whether they are rational like Darwin or nutty like poofists.

Thank you for providing yet another example of the kind of civility freely available from evolutionists.

31 posted on 01/07/2005 5:48:05 PM PST by Dataman
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To: Dataman

How amusing, coming from someone who regularly castigates those who disagree as liberals and atheists. Is yours the sort of civility they teach in Sunday schools nowadays?


32 posted on 01/07/2005 5:54:38 PM PST by general_re (How come so many of the VKs have been here six months or less?)
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To: general_re

How is acknowledging self-admitted atheists "castigating?" Do the FR atheists know that you think "atheist" is pejorative?


33 posted on 01/07/2005 6:01:03 PM PST by Dataman
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To: beavus

According to that freeloading bastard on TV with all those question marks sewn on his suit, the government will give you money for just about anything. You don't even have to write a grant request, which should be good news for your average creationist.


34 posted on 01/07/2005 6:10:12 PM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: Dataman
LOL. You can lie to me, but your posting history is there for everyone to see. Shall I pull up some examples of you basically labeling every evolutionist a liberal, an atheist? How many posts like that do you think I'll find in the last day? The last week? How about the last month? Should we start a pool to bet on how many I come up with?
35 posted on 01/07/2005 6:12:29 PM PST by general_re (How come so many of the VKs have been here six months or less?)
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To: Dataman
Thank you for providing yet another example of the kind of civility freely available from evolutionists.

That's right, you'll get no armtwisting from me. I don't care how kooky your professed beliefs are.

Of course, if you prefer people whose diplomacy of speech is surpassed only by their proclivity for extortion, I'm sure there's a government job waiting for you.

36 posted on 01/07/2005 6:47:46 PM PST by beavus
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
If you don't have school aged children, you could use them yourself in a college or sell them on the open market.

Sell children on the open market?

37 posted on 01/07/2005 6:49:22 PM PST by beavus
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To: Junior
According to that freeloading bastard on TV with all those question marks sewn on his suit, the government will give you money for just about anything. You don't even have to write a grant request, which should be good news for your average creationist.

You make a good point.

38 posted on 01/07/2005 6:50:39 PM PST by beavus
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To: PatrickHenry

Do you post on EVERY thread, or just every thread that I post on?


39 posted on 01/07/2005 6:56:07 PM PST by beavus
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To: beavus
Do you post on EVERY thread, or just every thread that I post on?

I'm a legend in the Hobbit Hole.

40 posted on 01/07/2005 7:01:57 PM PST by PatrickHenry (The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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