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Dead voted in governor's race King County investigating 'ghost voter' cases
Seattle PI ^ | 1/7/05 | Michelle Nicolosi

Posted on 01/07/2005 6:42:10 AM PST by pissant

At least eight people who died well before the November general election were credited with voting in King County, raising new questions about the integrity of the vote total in the narrow governor's race, a Seattle Post-Intelligencer review has found.

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The evidence of votes from dead people is the latest example of flaws in an election already rocked by misplaced votes and allegations that there were thousands more votes counted than actual voters.

County officials say they are investigating the cases pointed out by the P-I. "These are not indications of fraud," said Bill Huennekens, King County's elections supervisor. "Fraud is a concerted effort to change an election."

The P-I review found eight people who died weeks before absentee ballots were mailed out, between Oct. 13 and 15, but were credited with voting in King County. Among them was an 81-year-old Seattle woman who died in August but is recorded as having voted at the polls.

The state is required by law to send monthly lists of the deceased to county auditors so they can purge those names from their voter rolls. But those lists are sent only every few months. That means thousands of deceased voters may have been sent absentee ballots.

"If we don't receive a notice that they're dead, then we have no way of taking them off the rolls," said Dean Logan, the county's elections director. Relatives of the deceased can and do cancel some registrations, he said.

Doris McFarland said she voted for her husband, Earl, who died Oct. 7.

"I called up the elections board and said, 'Can I do it because he wanted me to vote?' " the Duvall woman said. "The person ... said, 'Well, who would know?' I said, 'I don't want to do anything that is wrong.' "

Huennekens disputed that election workers would say such a thing.

McFarland said she signed her husband's name and mailed in his ballot, along with her own. She said she had power of attorney for her 92-year-old husband, who was blind.

"If I did something that wasn't right, you can just throw that ballot out," McFarland said last night.

Huennekens said one of the P-I's eight cases involved an administrative error that showed a deceased person as voting and would be corrected. In four cases, the signatures on the ballot matched. Huennekens said officials needed further information or could not track down enough information on the other cases.

Election officials said that if cases merit potential fraud, they would forward them on for prosecution.

King County keeps a voter list as a record of who voted in elections and to establish requirements for levies and bonds, Logan said.

The preliminary voter list shows that Mary Coffey mailed in a ballot. But the 51-year-old Seattle woman died about two weeks before absentee ballots were mailed.

"She couldn't have (voted). She died on Sept. 29," said her husband, Michael Coffey. He added that he voted by mail, but destroyed his wife's ballot when it arrived in the mail.

"I don't see how she could have voted. It doesn't make sense. There has to be some kind of error that happened."

Election officials were still looking into what happened in her case.

Bob Holmgren said yesterday that he voted on behalf of his late wife, Charlette Holmgren, who died Sept. 29. The West Seattle man filled out his own ballot and hers, and signed both of them.

"Her vote was important to her," Holmgren said. "She was very strongly against Governor-elect Gregoire." Election officials said all signatures on absentee ballots were doubled-checked against the signature on record.

"Our system of allowing people to vote absentee and never checking anything is designed for voter convenience at the expense of security," said Chris Vance, chairman of the state Republican Party.

He said the GOP has found cases of dead people casting ballots, and it plans to challenge the race results.

Votes from the 2004 election have been heavily scrutinized . With Democrat Christine Gregoire set to take office on Wednesday, Republicans are searching for ways to contest the election and force a revote.

Kirstin Brost, spokeswoman for the state Democratic Party, said, "We're very satisfied with the results of this election. It's the most closely examined election in our state's history."

James M. Courneya of Auburn died three months before the election. But the King County voter list shows that he voted absentee.

"He couldn't have. He died Aug. 7," said his wife, Anna Courneya, who resides at the same address as her late husband. She said her husband didn't receive a ballot but she did. She voted absentee but the King County voters list doesn't register her vote, only his.

Huennekens said Anna Courneya voted using her husband's ballot, and because she didn't cast a separate one, that ballot was valid.

The state Health Department sends out lists of the deceased "every two to three months," not every month as the law states, said Jennifer Tebaldi, who helps oversee the department's vital statistics operation.

"We have an informal understanding with the counties that we send it when there's a bulk of information to send."

County auditors received lists of the deceased from the state three times last year -- on Jan. 28, May 5 and Nov. 1, a day before the election. Most of the names they received in May were of people who died in 2003, because of a lag of four to six months in collecting and sending data.

Secretary of State Sam Reed said a statewide voter database, expected in 2006, would improve the process.

He said he hasn't seen the problem of dead people voting occur in Washington. Voter fraud is a serious crime that may be punished with up to 10 years in prison and up to a $10,000 fine, he said.

"We do not expect people to sit down and vote a ballot just because it happens to arrive in their homes," Reed said. "Double-checks are in place."

Rosalie B. Simpson, 81, died of a massive heart attack Aug. 4, but voter rolls show she voted at the polls.

If a voter dies after having voted, it's still perfectly legal, Logan said.

Owen Skau of Federal Way made his choices before he died last October, said his wife, Maya.

"He filled it out," she said. "He always voted. ... He filled out his vote before he fell and had a heart attack. But he had it filled out. I went ahead and mailed it in."

Other voting problems may also be raised. Timothy Harris, general counsel for the Building Industry Association of Washington, which is preparing a court challenge of the governor's race, said his group has documented about 50 felons who did not have their voting rights restored but voted in Pierce County.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democratscheat; dinorossi; election; electionfraud; fraud; rossi; votefraud; voterfraud; washington; washingtonstate
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To: pissant

That seems to be getting more common all the time. People vote Republican till the day they die! Then.....


41 posted on 01/07/2005 7:44:07 AM PST by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: chiller
"I assume the Times is also in the pocket of the Dems."

That would be a correct assumption. The local media coverage of this election debacle - especially the editorials - has been shameful and down-right embarrasing.

42 posted on 01/07/2005 7:45:46 AM PST by SW6906
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To: NavyCanDo
Obviously she knew it was wrong or she wouldn't have called to ask if it was okay. I think they need to send a very strong message throughout WA state and prosecute (yes even senior citizens, regardless of political affiliation)these cases of abuse, voting is important and we should not turn are eyes from this fraud.
43 posted on 01/07/2005 7:47:07 AM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: pissant
"...She said she had power of attorney for her 92-year-old husband, who was blind."

A Power of Attourney is only valid while the person is alive.

44 posted on 01/07/2005 7:47:31 AM PST by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: SW6906

I voted for this jerk, he better start looking after my interests.


45 posted on 01/07/2005 7:48:38 AM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: GretchenM

Somehow I'm not surprised PING.


46 posted on 01/07/2005 7:50:33 AM PST by ride the whirlwind (The smallest Good Deed is better than the grandest Good Intention.)
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To: anniegetyourgun

That's our lovely Seattle Times for ya!


47 posted on 01/07/2005 8:03:11 AM PST by pissant
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To: SW6906
Here's one furious American. The blatent disregard for the rule of law in the Lautenberg affair in New Jersey brought me to FR. This stinks just as badly.

Pubbies seem to understand that if there is no rule of law, there is no functioning society. Dems might as well turn off all the traffic signals and see how well we cope. Same goes for cheating Pubbies....bust them too, it's just that liberals think they are the annointed ones who make laws for others to obey.

48 posted on 01/07/2005 8:03:35 AM PST by chiller (DONE: Gore, taxes, terrorism,Kerry, Old Media. TO DO: Judges, Tort, IRS, Soc.Sec.,borders..)
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To: 1Old Pro

"Washington needs a re-vote"

My guess is that it will happen.


49 posted on 01/07/2005 8:03:53 AM PST by pissant
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To: anniegetyourgun

"Voting by dead people isn't always a scam"
Yeah, Only when they don't vote Democrat. I noticed the lead paragraph cited a Republican scamming the vote.


50 posted on 01/07/2005 8:09:56 AM PST by Bar-Face
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To: pissant

Noticably absent is the ratio of D to R votes, that occurred.


51 posted on 01/07/2005 8:15:33 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: hobbes1

No suprise there. If its King County & fraudulent, assume 95% demonrat.


52 posted on 01/07/2005 8:17:40 AM PST by pissant
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To: SW6906
From the KOMO-TV website:

Democrats on Thursday said they believe a revote would violate the state constitution, which requires that the governor be elected at the same time as legislators.

The Democrats just stepped in it. If there is a revote for governor, there could also be a revote in all legislative contests. If public opinion continues to boil over about this, a revote would not only produce Gov. Rossi but a Republican legislature too.

53 posted on 01/07/2005 8:22:13 AM PST by Publius (The people of a democracy choose the government they want, and they ought to get it good and hard.)
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To: sierrahome
Clearly, "voting" is a high priority among Democrats.
54 posted on 01/07/2005 8:24:46 AM PST by pointsal
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To: pissant

Revote:

Ain't gonna happen.

She'll get sworn in and act like she's Gods gift to Washington. Like we were all lost sheep, till she came along and saved us.

Cripes, at least Locke stayed somewhat out of the limelight. This broad really scares me. Boeing gone first, Gates will probably follow them.


55 posted on 01/07/2005 8:24:54 AM PST by djf
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To: djf

I think you might be mistaken. Its the only way the dems will be able to save face. As long as the fraud evidence pans out, that is.


56 posted on 01/07/2005 8:32:19 AM PST by pissant
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To: pissant
<> So, who is going to send this idiot a dictionary? Voting for someone else (who happens to be dead) isn't FRAUD? Fraud only occurs when there is a "concerted effort to change an election"-- so does fraud only occur when Huennekens thinks it is "concerted"? Do NOT let these monsters get away with it.
57 posted on 01/07/2005 8:39:20 AM PST by I_like_good_things_too
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To: I_like_good_things_too

I'll fed-ex him one today.


58 posted on 01/07/2005 8:43:36 AM PST by pissant
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To: I_like_good_things_too

See - it's only fraud if there is some sort of conspiratorial effort. Or if a single voter voted twice for Rossi.. that would be fraud.

Proves once again, all they need do is control those who COUNT the votes. Not those who actually vote.

It's shameless.


59 posted on 01/07/2005 8:43:59 AM PST by djf
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To: pissant

Interesting. That's two days in a row that the very liberal Seattle P-I has published long articles casting doubt on Gregoire's legitimacy.

Something unusual is at work here. Normally they would be helping to smooth things over for the leftists.


60 posted on 01/07/2005 8:45:33 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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