Posted on 01/07/2005 4:22:14 AM PST by rdb3
Gee - should I believe Nesher, an unknown who provides no support for his statements, or this speaker ... Hhmmmmm
"I also want to speak tonight directly to Muslims throughout the world: We respect your faith. It is practiced freely by many millions of Americans, and by millions more in countries that America counts as friends. Its teachings are good and peaceful, and those who commit evil in the name of Allah blaspheme the name of Allah. The terrorists are traitors to their own faith, trying, in effect, to hijack Islam itself. The enemy of America is not our many Muslim friends; it is not our many Arab friends. Our enemy is a radical network of terrorists, and every government that supports them."
Who, exactly, is the "speaker" this gem comes from?
"I also want to speak tonight directly to Muslims throughout the world: We respect your faith."
Yeah right. Their cult of death isnt even a real faith.
"It is practiced freely by many millions of Americans,"
sleeper cells
"and by millions more in countries that America counts as friends"
trojan horses
"Its teachings are good and peaceful, and those who commit evil in the name of Allah blaspheme the name of Allah."
allah (not capitalized you notice) does not exist, and Islam is not "good and peaceful"
As i said above, islam is a satanic cult of death.
you set yourself up for this one.
"Who, exactly, is the "speaker" this gem comes from? "
Naw... I'd rather hear more about what you think about a person who could make those statements ...
Posters here have said things about Muslim Americans that is disgusting. These are fellow citizens. Silent majority? I'd take that any day over THOUGHT CRIME, which is where these people want to go.
Are you suggesting that Abdul=Adolf? I thought that was the assertion you were opposing?
apropos here:
"You are either with us or against us."
I suppose none of these "moderates" practice taqiyya.
islam is a death cullt,things will only get better when it goes the way of the thuggee's and nazis
Please don't mistake the ravings of a few un-American posters with those of us who stand for maintaining those principles which make this nation GREAT! Although they'd sell us out for some false feeling of security and venting of some anger, I think most Americans still see that without out moral foundation of fairness, rights, anti-bigotry, etc., then we would be nothing.
Here are some more statements from CAIR:
"Those who stay in America should be open to society without melting, keeping Mosques open so anyone can come and learn about Islam. If you choose to live here, you have a responsibility to deliver the message of Islam ...... Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth." - Omar Ahmad
"I am in support of the Hamas movement." - Nihad Awad
"I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future...But I'm not going to do anything violent to promote that. I'm going to do it through education."
"CAIR does not support these groups publicly." - Ibrahim Hooper
"I bring to you salaams and greetings from the Mujahadeen at CAIR."
(Statement made during a Washington D.C. rally)
"Anyone over 18 is automatically inducted into the service and they are all reserves.
Therefore, Hamas, in my opinion, looks at them as part of the military." - Ghazi Khankan
that is good to see. hopefully, there are enough to counter what seems like professional attempts to turn citizens against one another.
And so there are many people attempting to use education to oppose him. Sounds perfectly legal and right to me, even if I hope he fails. People can try to convince others of many things...making things illegal by fiat just because you don't like them is not the way to go. I'd rather see the people understand the danger of an Islamic government and just not want one here.
"Islam must ultimately be either banned or SEVERELY controlled in western nations."
No kidding. I vote we kick em all out!
tough talk. why don't you start with the lady that wrote this article?
Gee, do you think Homeland Security might need to know this ?
http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/fs/2003/17067.htm
What's your take on this ?
Why haven't they been carted off to Gitmo ?
That was the least offensive quote, so I wonder what you think of the others.
I have nothing against education, but when our grammar shool aged children can no longer recite "under God" but can learn about Islamic culture INCLUDING praying toward Mecca, I have a problem. WE have a problem. Not to mention what is happening on college campuses.
They use our protections to actually advance their cause. Sorry. No burqa for me.
Where do you intend to kick them to?
Oh, sarcasm. How "out of character" for you.
I'm sure CAIR is under investigation. Our government isn't as inept as you might like to believe. Except maybe in regards to border control.
Agreed. So let's attack that hypocrisy, instead of just thrashing around at all Muslims in frustration.
What do I think of other quotes?
Well, let's just go with the first one, for now. Substitute "Churches" for "Mosques," "Christ/Christian/Christianity" for "Muslim/Islam," and "Bible" for "Koran," and you get what sounds like a lot of church views I've encountered in America, who wants everyone to convert to Christianity:
"Those who stay in America should be open to society without melting, keeping Churches open so anyone can come and learn about Christianity. If you choose to live here, you have a responsibility to deliver the message of Christ ...... Christianity isn't in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The bible, the Christian book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Christianity the only accepted religion on Earth."
And if say, "but they want to kill all others--that's what that means!" then I would point out that is your projection onto it. This statement doesn't say that at all, and the Koran says quite clearly that Christians and Jews should be converted (and definitely not killed if they convert). (Of course this is not to be taken as a good system, but it is reasonable that a group could consider non-violent spread to be applicable.)
Do I like their system? No. Do I believe that Islam is true? No. Do I think it (or Muslims) can be dangerous? Yes. Should we suppress it through direct banning or other similar action? Only if we want to make it stronger.
What's the context of the other quotes? They are not really easy to address without the context.
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