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Nonbelievers Organize in Fear of Bush White House and Republican Congress
Beliefnet ^ | Jan 6th, 2005 | Jeff Mac Donald

Posted on 01/06/2005 9:12:28 AM PST by missyme

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1 posted on 01/06/2005 9:12:29 AM PST by missyme
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Freethinkers have to answer to GOD that's the challenge


2 posted on 01/06/2005 9:14:34 AM PST by missyme
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people who don't believe in God are joining forces as never before to make sure their rights don't get trampled in what they perceive as a stampede of religious zeal.

Paraphrased: Satan will be working harder than ever to kill more babies, destroy marriage, and corrupt the innocent.

3 posted on 01/06/2005 9:15:33 AM PST by frog_jerk_2004
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More Machiavellian posturing. The Bush administration is more of a threat to believers than to any nonbeliever and they know it but they want to give them cover.
4 posted on 01/06/2005 9:16:05 AM PST by Mark in the Old South (Note to GOP "Deliver or perish" Re: Specter I guess the GOP "chooses" to perish)
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I had some fun with a cow-irker of mine who is a big time dem. A day or two after the Bush victory I told her as we were leaving work. "See you in Bible study, you know it is now mandatory."


5 posted on 01/06/2005 9:16:54 AM PST by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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I don't believe in "non-believers"--yet I find myself inundated with their pap daily. If I have to put up with them, they can put up with me.


6 posted on 01/06/2005 9:17:39 AM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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At the Los Angeles-based Atheist Alliance International, donations in November 2004 outpaced those of the prior three months put together as donors, apparently troubled by President Bush's re-election, began giving in four- and five-figure amounts.

More money flushed down the drain in futility...

7 posted on 01/06/2005 9:17:39 AM PST by frog_jerk_2004
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When Silverman gave an invocation at a Charleston, S.C., City Council meeting in March 2003, six council members stood and walked out in protest.

This was absolutely insane. How can a professed atheist give an invocation?

8 posted on 01/06/2005 9:20:20 AM PST by frog_jerk_2004
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Yet as they get more organized, non-theists are also finding they are more than a one-issue constituency. Leaders say those who don't believe in God share a virtual consensus in favor of gay and abortion rights.

So they are a two-issue constituency? Why is it always abortion?

9 posted on 01/06/2005 9:20:24 AM PST by KJacob (If I yawn it is only in anticipation.)
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While these folks have every right to lobby Congress, this atheist won't be joining or contributing. I already have all the rights I need, and am not particularly worried about losing them.


10 posted on 01/06/2005 9:20:24 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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"How can a professed atheist give an invocation?

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I've done it many times, or at least have spoken at the usual time for an invocation.

What I do is to appeal for the members of the group I'm addressing to look within themselves and use their minds to come up with solutions for whatever issues they were there to deal with.

I invoke the power of reason and logic on such occasions. I never mention religious issues at all.


11 posted on 01/06/2005 9:22:22 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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> Freethinkers have to answer to GOD

Maybe so. Maybe Christians will have to answer to Allah or Zeus. But concern of a religious takeover of government is *always* a rational concern. No good can come of it.


12 posted on 01/06/2005 9:22:29 AM PST by orionblamblam
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So they are a two-issue constituency? Why is it always abortion?

Because to approve of abortion one has to take God out of it.

13 posted on 01/06/2005 9:22:37 AM PST by frog_jerk_2004
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I'm so worried. Oh, no! One of these anti-religion (read as, anti-Christian) groups may one day top 100,000 dollars a year in donations! These suckers don't have a prayer.


14 posted on 01/06/2005 9:22:55 AM PST by jim35 (I'll bet Dasshole is Deeply Saddened now!!!)
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> How can a professed atheist give an invocation?

Based on that incident, an atheist can't. He was prevented from doing so.

However, I believe the text he was *going* to present is available online.


15 posted on 01/06/2005 9:23:47 AM PST by orionblamblam
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people who don't believe in God are joining forces as never before to make sure their rights don't get trampled in what they perceive as a stampede of religious zeal.

Atheism is a purely faith-based belief about the nature and existence of a supreme being, and as such is a bona fide religion.

I am tired of having their religious zeal rammed down the throats of the rest of us.

BTW, I was an atheist for 20 years before I came to the realization that as a belief system it cannot be scientifically justified.

16 posted on 01/06/2005 9:24:42 AM PST by Maceman (Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
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I've done it many times, or at least have spoken at the usual time for an invocation.

What I do is to appeal for the members of the group I'm addressing to look within themselves and use their minds to come up with solutions for whatever issues they were there to deal with.

Huh?

From websters.com

in·vo·ca·tion Audio pronunciation of "Invocation" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (nv-kshn) n.

1. The act or an instance of invoking, especially an appeal to a higher power for assistance.
2. A prayer or other formula used in invoking, as at the opening of a religious service.
3.
1. The act of conjuring up a spirit by incantation.
2. An incantation used in conjuring.

17 posted on 01/06/2005 9:25:25 AM PST by frog_jerk_2004
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These suckers don't have a prayer.

That's their problem!

18 posted on 01/06/2005 9:26:22 AM PST by frog_jerk_2004
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Leaders say those who don't believe in God share a virtual consensus in favor of gay and abortion rights.

That figures.

19 posted on 01/06/2005 9:26:47 AM PST by spodefly (This message packaged with desiccant. Do not open until ready for use or inspection.)
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Leaders say those who don't believe in God share a virtual consensus in favor of gay and abortion rights.

GASP!

20 posted on 01/06/2005 9:27:50 AM PST by frog_jerk_2004
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