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First-Hand Account of What Goes on Inside a Chula Vista Abortion Clinic (Warning Graphic Content)
San Diego News Notes ^ | January 2005 | MIGUEL VÁZQUEZ

Posted on 01/05/2005 12:47:52 PM PST by NYer

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To: All; kerberos3; Salvation; InvisibleChurch; EsclavoDeCristo; xzins; Knock3Times; Lunatic Fringe
Prayers help to close these things down:

Lawrence (KS) abortion clinic closes because of funding woes

Eugene abortion clinic closes; surprising many (Hooray !!!)

Prayer credited for closing of abortion clinic [Eugene, OR]

Planned Parenthood will shut down 3 clinics [Indiana]

Persevering Students Help Close Abortion Clinic [Santa Paula, CA--Thomas Aquinas College]

Abortion Clinic Managers Quit After Being Outed by Operation Rescue [Wichita, Kansas]

One Man's God Squad: Troy Newman's plan to stop abortions in Wichita, Kansas

81 posted on 01/06/2005 8:13:36 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer

There are no words to describe how I feel right now. None.


82 posted on 01/06/2005 8:22:29 AM PST by arizonarachel (Prayer works!)
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To: Howlin
I post live threads, period. I don't influence anybody, bub.

I would tend to agree, "bubette"!

83 posted on 01/06/2005 9:21:30 AM PST by Lurking2Long
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To: Lurking2Long

But just in case...


84 posted on 01/06/2005 9:23:27 AM PST by Lurking2Long
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To: Lurking2Long

Well, then, why are you so damn intimidated by me?

Go away, you troll.


85 posted on 01/06/2005 9:25:38 AM PST by Howlin (I need my Denny Crane!)
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To: Howlin
Howlin, it is MUCH more likely that it is YOU who is the troll...it is not me who supports moderate Republican causes and RINOs...I would even venture a guess that you are a died-in-the-wool Democrat who thinks she is going to fragment the Republican party by seeking to foment a split between conservatives and moderates on certain social issues such as abortion and stem cell research.

The last election should have shown you that the handwriting is firmly on the CONSERVATIVE side of the Republican wall...

86 posted on 01/06/2005 9:31:39 AM PST by Lurking2Long
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To: Lurking2Long

Thanks for that post; it's always nice to see somebody put their lunacy in print.



87 posted on 01/06/2005 9:33:30 AM PST by Howlin (I need my Denny Crane!)
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To: Howlin
Actually, the "lunacy" on the part of RINOs is that they cannot accept that abortion is murder, no matter the reason.

Perhaps "lunacy" is the wrong word; I would substitute the phrase "spiritual blindness".

88 posted on 01/06/2005 9:39:47 AM PST by Lurking2Long
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To: Lurking2Long

I believe in the 3 exceptions.

And I don't care what you kind of "conservative" thinks of me.


90 posted on 01/06/2005 9:55:43 AM PST by Howlin (I need my Denny Crane!)
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To: Howlin
L2L (post # 86 -- Howlin, it is MUCH more likely that it is YOU who is the troll..) does not seem too perceptive! You...... a spy, a double agent all these years.... how can one be so completely wrong? ROFL!

;-)

*****

Btw, do you happen to know if there will be a live thread on the "Boxer Rebellion" (Ohio vote) coming this afternoon?

91 posted on 01/06/2005 9:57:07 AM PST by beyond the sea (Andrea Mitchell is Barbra Streisand on peyote ......and the north end of a south bound mule.)
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To: Myrddin

I love Chula Vista.
Did you know it is the fastest growing city
in the nation right now?
Property values have skyrocketed,
at least in Hilltop.

Hope you're happy in Idaho... it's beautiful there.


92 posted on 01/06/2005 11:10:18 AM PST by b9 (Happy New You)
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To: doodlelady
I attended Hazel Goes Cook Elementary, Hilltop Junior High and Hilltop High School. Graduated in 1973.

My son is taking advantage of the high growth rate by selling lots of real estate in Chula Vista. Eastlake was built on the area that I used for off-road motorcycling in high school. The strip mall at I-805 and H street was built on top of one of the best hill climbing spots in the area. The bikers called it "Peppertree" in honor of the tree growing half way up the hill. I think the hill and the tree are still visible behind the strip mall.

Property prices have skyrocketed. I don't confuse high price with high value. $400,000 buys you a dwelling in a high crime neighborhood. $700,000 is the floor for the quality of neighborhood I would tolerate.

Value is a measure of quality of goods received for the money paid. I'm sitting in a 3900 sq ft house on 1/3 acre with a nice view. Every house in the neighborhood is a minimum of 3500 sq ft. Most are closer to 5000 sq ft. Low crime. No gangs. No traffic. Recently appraised at $185,000. That is a good value.

My last house in Mira Mesa is now priced at $400,000. It is 1334 sq, 4 br, 2 ba on 1/4 acre. Problems with Hispanic and Asian gangs. Graffiti. Gunshots at night. Very heavy traffic. Heavy crowding in local retail stores and restaurants. The neighborhood is over 50% renters who don't care for the property as most owner/occupants do.

My mom's house in Chula Vista is 1700 sq ft, 3 br, 2 ba. Recently appraised at $400,000. Drug deals happen often in front of her driveway. Local gangs place graffiti on her nice pink block wall. The traffic on L street enroute to/from Southwestern College causes lots of noise.

93 posted on 01/06/2005 12:08:25 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

For heaven's sake, if it's so awful, why do you
leave your poor mother there?


94 posted on 01/06/2005 12:36:20 PM PST by b9 (Happy New You)
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To: doodlelady
For heaven's sake, if it's so awful, why do you leave your poor mother there?

My father just died last year. She owns the house free and clear. It has been her home for the last 44 years. Trying to move her anywhere else in San Diego would cause her immediate financial insolvency. As is, her financial condition is stable for more years than she will probably live. She just turned 77 Jan 2nd. Her neighbor across the street checks on her daily. My sister lives out by Valhalla High school. She visits twice a week.

Mom's fixed income and the protection afforded by Proposition 13 are key reasons to stay put. The house priced at $400,000 was purchased for $16,000 in 1961. Her annual property taxes are about 10% of what most people pay for a single bedroom apartment EACH MONTH in the San Diego area.

95 posted on 01/06/2005 1:05:26 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

She must be very grateful for her home.
Your father provided well for her.
I'm sorry for your loss.


96 posted on 01/06/2005 1:43:44 PM PST by b9 (Happy New You)
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To: NYer; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...

Which type of killing method would you choose? Here are your choices:

1. Dismemberment and Evacuation
2. Induction
3. RU-4-86
4. Dilation & Extraction
5. New method created from the fraudulent Ban of the Partial Birth Abortion

If you were to choose the first one on the list, Dismemberment and Evacuation, you may want to ask for pain management since it will be very painful and a very long drawn out death. This method is outlawed on animals. The name pretty much describes what happens. The so called doctor will bring in a very sharp tool into your world and start by cutting off your arms and legs before he gets to your trunk. He then extracts the pieces and puts them back together in order to make sure he removed them all.

If that does not appeal to you then maybe the Induction method will. This one is even more painful and takes even longer. You may need to beg for pain medicine because you will need it. It all starts when the practitioner brings a syringe full of very salty water into your world. I like swimming in the ocean so I might choose this method, especially if I didn’t read the fine print. The fine print exposes that this salt water is so concentrated that it will burn your whole body on the outside, then you breathe it in and it burns your lungs and stomach. Agony lasts 6-8 hours and you could be born alive after going down the birth canal scraping your burns. One girl,
Gianna Jessen, survived this death sentence. She is now about 25 years old. Luckily she had a novice nurse who didn’t know she was supposed to finish Gianna off. She called 911 instead.

Your next is the RU-486, which stands for, “Are you for deletion?” This could be the one you may choose if you want to really drag it out in hopes of intervention. You will be slowly poisoned to death so expect nausea, vomiting and severe abdominal pain. This will continue for about a week.

Until recently you could have picked the Dilation and Extraction. More commonly called the “Partial Birth Abortion.”

 

"I want to add that some religious groups deliver pamphlets to women before they enter the clinic. I've seen that they look at those pamphlets that show the formation of a baby week after week. Some reconsider and leave the clinic. They are few, but sometimes it happens."

This procedure works along with a lot of prayer, we are dealing with many demons.  I have found that giving the women medical facts sheets along with pictures of children in utero along with ultrasounds helps the best.  Telling them about risks of breast cancer, bleeding, infection, depression and suicide helps. You often times have to talk quickly because they are told on the phone that we'll be out there and not to take any literature.  Many mills have court injunctions so we can't get close enough to speak to the women entering the mill.

97 posted on 01/06/2005 4:12:30 PM PST by Coleus (Let us pray for the 125,000 + victims of the tsunami and the 126,000 aborted Children killed daily)
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To: NYer

I'm gonna hurl.


98 posted on 01/06/2005 4:29:06 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (Save Terri Schiavo!!!)
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