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Three storms threaten to strike U.S. at once
Knight Ridder ^ | 1/05/05 | Seth Borenstein

Posted on 01/05/2005 8:29:29 AM PST by 1LongTimeLurker

WASHINGTON — Moisture-laden storms from the north, west and south are likely to converge on much of America over the next several days in what could be a once-in-a-generation onslaught, meteorologists forecast yesterday.

If the gloomy computer models at the U.S. Climate Prediction Center are right, we'll see this terrible trio:

• The "Pineapple Express," a series of warm, wet storms heading east from Hawaii, drenching Southern California and the far Southwest, already beset with heavy rain and snow. Flooding, avalanches and mudslides are possible.

• An "Arctic Express," a mass of cold air chugging south from Alaska and Canada, bringing frigid air and potentially heavy snow and ice to the usually mild-wintered Pacific Northwest.

• An unnamed warm, moist storm system from the Gulf of Mexico drenching the already-saturated Ohio, Tennessee and Mississippi valleys. Expect heavy river flooding and springlike tornadoes.

Meteorologists caution that their predictions are only as good as their computer models. And forecasts are less accurate the further into the future they attempt to predict. "The models tend to overdo the formation of these really exciting weather formations for us," said Mike Wallace, a University of Washington atmospheric scientist.

Yet the more Wallace studied the models, the more he became convinced that something wicked was coming this way.

"It all fits together nicely," he said. "There's going to be weather in the headlines this weekend, that's for sure."

The National Weather Service yesterday issued a statement warning that several inches of snow could fall by the end of the weekend in the central Puget Sound lowlands, including Seattle. The snow could begin as soon as tomorrow night, particularly in areas north of Seattle, with a growing chance of snow farther south Friday, the weather service said. Highs through this weekend are expected to be in the low- to mid-30s, with lows in the mid- to high-20s.

"Don't sound the alarm," weather service meteorologist Johnny Burg said. "But tell everybody to just pay attention to future forecasts."

The three storms are likely to meet in the nation's midsection and cause even more problems, sparing only areas east of the Appalachian Mountains. Property damage and a few deaths are likely, forecasters said.

"You're talking a two- or three-times-a-century type of thing," said prediction-center senior meteorologist James Wagner, who has been forecasting storms since 1965. "It's a pattern that has a little bit of everything."

The exact time and place of the predicted 1-2-3 punch changes slightly with every new forecast. But the National Weather Service, in its weekly "hazards assessment," alerted meteorologists and disaster specialists yesterday that flooding and frigid weather could start as early as Friday and stretch into early next week, if not longer.

"It's a situation that looks pretty potent," said Ed O'Lenic, the Climate Prediction Center's operations chief. "A large part of North America looks like it's going to be affected."

Kelly Redmond, deputy director of the Western Regional Climate Center at the Desert Research Institute in Reno, Nev., where an unusual 18 inches of snow is on the ground, said the expected heavy Western rains could cause avalanches. Southern California and western Arizona have had three to four times the normal precipitation for the area since Oct. 1.

"Somebody is in for something pretty darn interesting," Redmond said.

Somebody already knows.

A wintry blast yesterday closed schools and glazed roads with ice and snow in the Rockies and on the central Plains, a 40-mile stretch of Interstate 5 was closed north of Los Angeles after up to 3 feet of snow fell in the region, and new flooding hit northeast of Phoenix, killing one man and leaving another missing.

Various levels of winter-weather advisories and storm warnings were in effect into this morning from Arizona to Connecticut, the weather service said.

Up to 2 feet of snow was possible in Colorado, where one traffic fatality was blamed on the weather and an avalanche blocked U.S. 550 about 40 miles north of Durango, the weather service said.

The last time a similar situation seemed to be brewing — especially in the West — was in January 1950, O'Lenic said. Seattle received 21 inches of snow, killing 13 people in an extended freeze, and Sunnyvale, Calif., was the scene of an unusual tornado.

The same scenario played out in 1937, when there was record flooding in the Ohio River Valley, said Wagner, of the prediction center.

He was worried about the Ohio and Tennessee River valleys as the places where the three nasty storm systems could meet, probably with snow, thunderstorms, severe ice storms and flooding. Some of those areas already are flooded.

The converging storms are being steered by high-pressure ridges off Alaska and Florida and are part of a temporary change in world climate conditions, O'Lenic said.

Over equatorial Indonesia, east of where a tsunami hit Dec. 26, meteorologists have identified a weather-making phenomenon called the Madden-Julian Oscillation. It's producing extra-stormy weather to its east. Similar oscillations in the north Atlantic and north Pacific are changing global weather patterns. Add this year's mild El Niño — a warming of the equatorial Pacific — which is unusually far west, Redmond said.

Seattle Times staff reporter Warren King contributed to this report; yesterday's weather was reported by The Associated Press


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To: 1LongTimeLurker
several inches of snow could fall by the end of the weekend in the central Puget Sound lowlands, including Seattle

Oooooooh! Scary!

121 posted on 01/05/2005 9:59:10 AM PST by Terriergal (...the fool has said in his heart 'there is no God')
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To: wyattearp

Nice try. We do ok in the snow, considering that we have real hills here. This ain't Ohio.


122 posted on 01/05/2005 9:59:27 AM PST by Rate_Determining_Step (US Military - Draining the Swamp of Terrorism since 2001!)
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To: blackdog
>If it's slippery in the coastal northwest, STAY AWAY!

Now, see that pretty much is SOP here in the midwest. How come you other folks don't get it? :-)

123 posted on 01/05/2005 10:01:37 AM PST by Terriergal (...the fool has said in his heart 'there is no God')
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To: Podkayne
Thirty below keeps out the riff raff.

Hear hear! And it's a good reason to wear fur.

124 posted on 01/05/2005 10:02:35 AM PST by Terriergal (...the fool has said in his heart 'there is no God')
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Yippee! I can get out the snowmobile for the first time in FIVE YEARS!

With 6" so far and another 6-or-so on the way, that guy with his snowmobile will likely be surfing my neighborhood streets tonight. I suppose owning a snowmobile in East-Central Iowa makes about as much sense as owning a surf board. (Buying on the used market would seem to be the prudent way to go. ;O)

125 posted on 01/05/2005 10:04:11 AM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: tcostell
Women and minorities hardest hit.

Not this woman!


126 posted on 01/05/2005 10:05:47 AM PST by Terriergal (...the fool has said in his heart 'there is no God')
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To: raisincane

I trust you got home safe, hope my husband fares well in the evening commute which is predicted to be pretty icy also. Here in NE Ohio we're getting freezing rain mixed with an occasional snow flake, yuck. I'd much rather have snow. Definitely not more rain though - it's been raining here for a week, looks to keep raining for days more and we're currently under a flood watch. Woohoo, what fun.


127 posted on 01/05/2005 10:06:50 AM PST by agrace ("We are doing very little at the moment." - U.N. emergency relief coordinator Jan Egeland 12/30/04)
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To: newgeezer

Yeah I'm not sure why people invest so much in snowmobiles around southern MN/Iowa - so rarely do we get enough to make it worthwhile. It would seem to make more sense to get an ATV you can use all year.


128 posted on 01/05/2005 10:07:04 AM PST by Terriergal (...the fool has said in his heart 'there is no God')
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To: nwctwx
Since the tstnami that killed all those people in Asia has been discovered to be only the opening shot of the extinction of all life on Earth, we should demand our aid money back. What's the sense of helping disaster victims when they're only gonna die a few months from now? We're just prolonging the agony. It would be kinder to let them die of starvation and disease now, rather than make them go through more terrible natural disasters.

The money we save by not aiding the victims can then be spent on cholesteral and fat-laden foods, smokes, alcoholic beverages, SUVs and other unhealthy things, to ease our suffering whilst we wait for Gaia to strike the final blow on humanity.

129 posted on 01/05/2005 10:09:12 AM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: Rebelbase

130 posted on 01/05/2005 10:10:40 AM PST by evets (God bless president George W. Bush)
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To: blackdog
"Come on......The end of winter just means the beginning of mud season!"

In the PA Outback we have 6 seasons : thawing mud season, greening mud season, warm muddy season, dry mud season (August), increasing mud season, and frozen mud season (frequently hidden by snow, ice or a combination).

131 posted on 01/05/2005 10:19:21 AM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: small voice in the wilderness; TigersEye
Living in Vermont should be considered suffering enough! :)

Vermont's the only state of the lower 48 where the right to carry a handgun has not been infringed. How bad can it be? ;O)

132 posted on 01/05/2005 10:19:40 AM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: wyattearp; sionnsar

Bring it on! I love to see Seattle crippled. The King County bureaucrats can't do their regular mischief. "...let it snow, let it snow, let it snow!


133 posted on 01/05/2005 10:22:11 AM PST by LibreOuMort ("...But as for me, give me liberty or give me death!" - Patrick Henry)
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To: 1LongTimeLurker

so much for global warming.....


134 posted on 01/05/2005 10:23:33 AM PST by LibreOuMort ("...But as for me, give me liberty or give me death!" - Patrick Henry)
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To: Rate_Determining_Step

"Nice try. We do ok in the snow, considering that we have real hills here. This ain't Ohio."

I don't live in Ohio, I live in Seattle. I've lived all over the Puget Sound region for all of my life, except for when I was in the Navy. People around here seem to think that having 4-wheel drive means that they can do 55 on black ice. When it gets below freezing with snow or ice on the roads, the sides of the roads are littered with 4-wheel drive vehicles.

When it snowed last year downtown, this town was almost completely still. In downtown Seattle you are either going uphill or you are going downhill, without much in between. If people don't know how to drive in those conditions, they shouldn't drive. It is amazing how people will try to drive up or down a snow-and-ice covered hill with no traction devices whatsoever.

Ever driven over Snoqualmie Pass in a snowstorm? I've seen people get scared because they were way out of their league and stop right in the middle of the road, assuming that everybody will just go around them.


135 posted on 01/05/2005 10:24:06 AM PST by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: Terriergal
> If it's slippery in the coastal northwest, STAY AWAY!

Now, see that pretty much is SOP here in the midwest.

Right you are. Here in the midwest, for the most part, people do tend to STAY AWAY in droves (which is mostly fine by me :-).

136 posted on 01/05/2005 10:24:14 AM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: Fierce Allegiance
WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!

ROFLMAO! You struck the right note of screechy sarcasm, LOL.

All the egghead meteorologists and dunderheaded reporters seem to have just discovered winter weather. In the meantime, some crackpot Leftists and Islamists are muttering darkly about how the south Asia tsunami "couldn't" have been caused by an earthquake. Nope, it had to be a nuclear test conducted by -- pick your villian.

But the real authorities -- Art Bell, Whitley Strieber, Richard C. Hoagland and their new age crowd -- haven't been heard from yet. If they're "remote viewing" the situation, their results are not in yet.

137 posted on 01/05/2005 10:29:48 AM PST by Wolfstar (Where are you, Miss Beazley?)
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To: wyattearp

Of course, here in Southern California, the TV weather folks told us it would rain all week. Right at the moment, the sun is shining and it's a gorgeous day here in L.A. Granted, more storms could be a'comin' -- but at least they're not blaming some contrivance like "El Nino" or "La Nina."


138 posted on 01/05/2005 10:33:05 AM PST by Wolfstar (Where are you, Miss Beazley?)
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To: Terriergal
It is. Frequently we get ice underneath that snow, or just black ice. Couple that with a lack of road equipment (hard to invest heavily in a lot of equipment that gets used maybe once or twice a year), people's lack of experience in driving in it, AND our steep hills... yes, it gets scary.

Even if you're thoroughly expert at driving in it, you're surrounded by people who aren't.

Ever been in a city and watch cars slide several hundred feet down a hill, out of control? I have.

139 posted on 01/05/2005 10:34:59 AM PST by sionnsar († trad-anglican.faithweb.com † || Iran Azadi || Gregoirovich, NYET!! www.revotewa.com)
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To: xjcsa
...the most we've had in one storm in several years (10-16 inches)

There was a time when 10-16 feet would have been routine. Maybe there is some benefit to global warming. ;-)

140 posted on 01/05/2005 10:36:03 AM PST by Wolfstar (Where are you, Miss Beazley?)
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