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To: jpsb

"Nothing like having it both ways huh"

In time of war I would rather on the side of more expanded powers of government than not. Yes, I'd rather be a bit less free than dead. I know that is anathema to the shortsighted and pollyannish libertarians and Leftists, but we are fighting a war that will take time to finish. During that time I am willing to give up some certain freedoms in order to win it.

"Too bad we no longer have a Constitution to restrain government."

You are way over the line on that one.


152 posted on 01/05/2005 5:15:10 PM PST by eleni121 (4 more years and then 4 more again)
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To: eleni121
"You are way over the line on that one."

Oh I don't think so, Drug Laws, IRS, emanate domain, hate laws, gun laws, etc, etc, etc. I'd say our Constitution is dead as means of constraining government power and ensuring individual liberty, the Patriot Act was the final nail in the coffin. With the Patriot act government no longer needs to even pretend to be obeying the Constitutional limits on search and seizure.

155 posted on 01/05/2005 5:29:11 PM PST by jpsb
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To: eleni121
"Yes, I'd rather be a bit less free than dead."

I prefer New Hampshire's state motto: Life Free or Die
158 posted on 01/05/2005 5:52:09 PM PST by NJ_gent (Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.)
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