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Frist Caves on Filibuster Rule Change for Judicial Nominees
Human Events Online ^ | January 4, 2005 | Robert Bluey

Posted on 01/04/2005 2:06:11 PM PST by hinterlander

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To: hinterlander

What else is new?


181 posted on 01/04/2005 3:40:55 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (Save Terri Schiavo!!!)
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To: hinterlander

Unbelievable. Why do we even bother working so hard to get Reps elected?

I can only take this as a signal that they will also cave on judicial nominations.


182 posted on 01/04/2005 3:42:46 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (I'm fresh out of tags. I'll pick some up tomorrow.)
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To: rwfromkansas
the little bastard

Dr. Bill Frist is a renowned surgeon specializing in Heart and Lung transplants. He was the founder of the Vanderbilt University transplant center. He is Majority Leader of the United States Senate, only the 20th man to hold that position since 1920.

What are your qualifications to call him a "little bastard"?

183 posted on 01/04/2005 3:43:30 PM PST by Barlowmaker
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To: Qwinn

Agree with you BUMP! I want to find my way back here for the crow eating fest after the 1st judicial nomination filibuster attempt.


184 posted on 01/04/2005 3:44:32 PM PST by Don Carlos (Gloating ... Gloating ... Still gloating)
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To: hinterlander

whatta idiot!

the democrats understand how to use power.

the republicans, not a clue.


185 posted on 01/04/2005 3:44:43 PM PST by ken21 (if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen! (/s))
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To: chiller
Iirc, the pubbies once used this technique on a few atrocious nominees. Payback has been hell.

No, the GOP has not used the filibuster to prevent a floor vote on judicial nominees. They managed to defeat a couple of clintoon's nominees and kept one or two from ever getting out of committee, but they have not filibustered a nominee that has been sent to the committee from the floor.

186 posted on 01/04/2005 3:45:15 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: Barlowmaker; rwfromkansas

Sorry, I didn't know you were talking about Specter, not Frist. Specter IS a "little bast*rd".


187 posted on 01/04/2005 3:45:16 PM PST by Barlowmaker
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To: You Dirty Rats

I didn't say Frist was a puppet - where did you get that ..??

I think your reply is just over the top - frankly!

I'm talking about REPUBLICANS working together with REPUBLICANS to accomplish things. I seriously doubt Daschle (when he was majority leader) paid any attention to what Bush wanted to do - because Daschle is a DEMOCRAT.

I'm talking about the basic agenda within the Senate - what bills are brought to the floor, etc. I think you're over reacting to what I said. But .. of course Frist would want to assist the President - being as how they are both REPUBLICANS. Not because the President runs the Senate, but because there are issues the President wants to put forth this term and Frist can assist Bush by bringing certain issues to the floor for disscussions and votes.

If you think for one minute that DEMOCRATS did not do the same thing - you have your head buried in the sand. In fact, the dem senate was so tight with the President - they would not vote to remove him from office.


188 posted on 01/04/2005 3:45:34 PM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: woodb01

I'm just curious...why do you think the Reps would dare to use the filibuster of judicial nominees as a campaign issue in 08 if they didn't use it in 04?


189 posted on 01/04/2005 3:45:45 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (I'm fresh out of tags. I'll pick some up tomorrow.)
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To: Barlowmaker

I think he was referring to Arlen Specter.

Who is a little bastard.

-Dan

190 posted on 01/04/2005 3:46:42 PM PST by Flux Capacitor (NIXON NOW!!!)
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To: gaspar
I think he would be much happier in Tennessee.

What a coincidence, most conservatives would also be much happier with him back in Tennessee!

191 posted on 01/04/2005 3:47:17 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Flux Capacitor

See 187


192 posted on 01/04/2005 3:47:23 PM PST by Barlowmaker
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

Yeah, Bill Frist has an 88 lifetime ACU rating. Send him home.

This place has become a looney bin.


193 posted on 01/04/2005 3:51:31 PM PST by Barlowmaker
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To: SmithL

The Republicans shouldn't be filibustering Judicial Nominees either. Advise & Consent CAN'T mean a supermajority for every controversial nominee, we'll never get anything done.


194 posted on 01/04/2005 3:53:03 PM PST by johnb838 (To Hell They Will Go. Killmore.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
One guy I do care about, Britt Hume, just stated on FNC that we didn't have the votes to go nuclear. He intimated we wanted to though.
195 posted on 01/04/2005 4:02:04 PM PST by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First let's get rid of the UN and then the ACLU, or vice versa..)
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To: Lancey Howard

Sure, the rules can be changed at anytime:

When the US Senate first organizes this week it takes only 51 votes to adopt the US Senate rules. The Senate normally adopts the rules from the previous Senate. One of these rules is Rule XXII, the so-called 'filibuster' and 'cloture' rule, which in the 108th Congress required 60 votes to force 'cloture'. If the Senate Rule XXII was modified NOW, then it would only take 51 votes to adopt the modified rule at the beginning of the session.

AFTER the rules are adopted it will most probably require the 60 votes for cloture to modify the Senate Rule XXII itself.


Summary:

51 votes now, 60 votes by the end of the week and for the next two years...


Frist chickened out.


dvwjr


196 posted on 01/04/2005 4:02:07 PM PST by dvwjr
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To: rodguy911
The only thing the rats understand is hardball, we have to start
playing rough.

My thinking as well.

Frist's intentions are really good, I know. But the thing is, the GOP
tries to play by the rules and with honor, while the 'RATS use every
trick in the book to obstruct and shiite all over the GOP.

The 'RATS are just shameless.


197 posted on 01/04/2005 4:02:10 PM PST by MeekOneGOP ("Go thru life w/a Bible in one hand, and your right hand on the mouse connected to FR!--Grampa Dave")
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To: rodguy911
I think there are two separate discussions going on right now. One is the rule change, which is not the nuclear option. The rule change requires the vote of the Senate. The other is the nuclear option, which is to wait for the filibuster, then call for a procedural ruling from the Senate parlimentarian that the filibuster is out of order for "advise and consent" votes, and then to order the end of the debate and the floor vote. This is from memory, but I think those were the options.

-PJ

198 posted on 01/04/2005 4:06:37 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: MeekOneGOP
Yeah, I totally agree MeekOneGop.

Sometimes I think we forget who we are up against and who they represent.

Rats represent many of the worst that our society has produced in addition to millions of lost souls who are really conservative but just don't know it.

They have few morals and even fewer scruples. This allows them to do almost anything, anytime. With a compliant press they are always a viscous opposition.

But they do recognize hardball players when they see them. Being tough is all they respect.
199 posted on 01/04/2005 4:12:10 PM PST by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First let's get rid of the UN and then the ACLU, or vice versa..)
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To: Political Junkie Too

if Bush names a prominent conservative minority, the media will make that the issue and justify the Democrat obstruction, which would embolden them.

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Here's the issue that terrifies the media, America is a CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN NATION!! It may have dozons of religious sects, or denominations, and divisions between Catholics and protestants, but is nevertheless a Nation that accepts biblical Christianity.

If the media takes this approach, it will continue to collapse even more quickly... And taking this approach will also so clearly differentiate the liberal, immoral left from the right that 2006 will be another disaster for the left.

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200 posted on 01/04/2005 4:18:53 PM PST by woodb01 (Re-Designed ANTI-DNC Web Portal at ---> http://www.noDNC.com)
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