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To: griffin
Oooooooooooo..."Jezebel"? ROTFLOL

Listen little boy,in an adult's body...you aren't nearly as clever,or as smart,nor as "holy" as you imagine yourself to be.And calling me "Jezebel" is so funny;you have NO idea just HOW funny! *snicker*

Okay,so Jews haven't been around from time immoral? C lose to 6,000 is a pretty long time,tinpot.

And there is no condemnation,in either the OT or the NT,of concubinage,multiple marriages (the Kings in the OT weren't punished for multiple marriages;but for other things!),nor for some pretty strange,yet accepted practices. Onan refused to impregnate his brother's widow.Marriage isn't mentioned,just the law that a widow MUST be given a child by her late husband's brother.And then there's the surrogate mother thing,which produced Ishmael and wasn't considxered to be adultery.

And since there was no such thing as Christianity,when Jesus walked the face of the earth,talking about "the bride of Christ" and marriage being akin to C hrist's love of "the church",are later additions. Lest we all forget,the Bible has been translated and written down so many times,that it's a wonder that so much of it stayed the same for centuries.So,if you think that throwing all kinds of cherry-picked bits and pieces of scripture up,is some kind of great refutation,you've quite another think coming!

What about the early Catholic church's dictum,that wife beating is not only okay,but something that should be done? Did Jesus tell HIS disciples that they had to eat fish on Fridays? No,he didn't.

And IF ,as you claim,marriage is a religious covenant,then are ALL marriages,other than Christian ones, not marriages at all?

In the Middle Ages,only royalty and the aristocracy were married by priests.The common folk would say that they were each other's own,on church steps.Some didn't even bother with that.And most royal and upper upper class marriages were arranged and POLITICAL/PROPERTY matches!

And as far as "common Christian teachings" are concerned,there are many and varied ones.

"Rebellious spirit" ? Your condescension and hubris are pathetic,silly,and will,in the end,be your undoing.

You appear to think that women are mindless,uneducated,immature,and something quite low,to be ruled over,made fun of,and subjugated to men.Yoooooooooo hooooooooooooooooooo,I hear that the Taliban think the same way,as do many other Muslims.

You don't know history well at all,you don't know much about the Bible and Christianity,other than what's been spoon fed you,and a CONSERVATIVE POLITICAL FORUM,has many people in it,who,though they may or may not think the way you do,shouldn't be preached at,nor talked down to,by some HOLIER THAN THOU child,who imagines himself to be GOD's mouthpiece. :^)

Yes LILITH! Her story has been left out of all Christian Bibles,but she was Adam's FIRST wife in the original OT and survives in today's Jewish teachings outside of the Bible. Even the Catholic church used her,as the premise for the succubus. It was their excuse to condemn nocturnal emissions. You know what those are,don't you?

Learn some history,ditch the smarmy sanctimony and misogynistic garbage,and maybe then we can discuss this as adults.

Oh,and when did you stop beating your wife,or have you? :-)

514 posted on 01/04/2005 9:27:13 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Great rant!!!!!!!


531 posted on 01/04/2005 9:37:14 PM PST by Gabz
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To: nopardons
Yes LILITH! Her story has been left out of all Christian Bibles,but she was Adam's FIRST wife in the original OT and survives in today's Jewish teachings outside of the Bible.



Gnostic heretical teaching...and medieval legend. No surprise you incorporate it into your belief system. That name is not in the Old or New Testament. Like I said....your 'truth' blows in the wind and your belief system is not Christian...whatever you think it is. I don't laugh at you, you have my sympathy.

But, a 'lady' as advanced in years as you seem to be will find the error of your ways shortly.

Just out of curiousity, does your husband spend a lot of time out in the garage or doing hobby things to avoid your domineering attitude?LOL!

837 posted on 01/05/2005 9:56:02 AM PST by griffin
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