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Need Firearm Purchasing Help
Vanity | 1/4/04 | andie74

Posted on 01/04/2005 12:16:13 PM PST by andie74

Knowing how my fellow FReepers believe in their second amendment rights, I thought that this might be the forum in which to ask the following:

DH and I recently moved our family to a 20 acre farm that is surrounded by 350+ acres in the middle of nowhere. Having lived in suburbia up until this point, we never believed that we had a need for a firearm.

But that was then, and this is now.

I want to buy something to take care of pesky critters (coyotes, etc.) and maybe something that we can do a little deer hunting with next season. We are beginners. We are not gun enthusiasts, though I'll bet we will be, especially when we have a freezer full of venison.

Plus, seeing as how I am out in the middle of nowhere, homeschooling, I would kind of like something for protection besides the dog (who is incredible, but I'd like to have her back).

Thoughts? Anyone?


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1 posted on 01/04/2005 12:16:13 PM PST by andie74
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maybe a pump shotgun in either 20 or 12 gauge. I have dispathced many a coyote with one and the deer also


2 posted on 01/04/2005 12:19:09 PM PST by choclabguy
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What would be the difference between a 20 and a 12 gauge?

Remember, I am ignorant. I've shot a .22 and a BBgun, but that is it.


3 posted on 01/04/2005 12:20:37 PM PST by andie74 (Proud Resident of Fly-Over Country)
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To: andie74

Take a hard look at a good scoped 30-06.


4 posted on 01/04/2005 12:20:55 PM PST by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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To: andie74; bang_list
Now you've done it.

For a first rifle that can deal with coyotes and put some meat in the freezer, I'd recommend on of those SKS rifles that are all over the place these days.

Also, you're going to need a .22 caliber rifle. Look at Rugers, Marlins, Brownings, etc.

A good shotgun will come in handy as well....

Awww crap. I can never recommend just one firearm. I don't know why I even try.

L

5 posted on 01/04/2005 12:21:40 PM PST by Lurker ("I answer to you, 'F*** you-I shall die on my feet.!" Oriana Fallaci.)
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I live in an area like you describe. Basic minimum would be a .22 semi-auto rifle and a 12 ga pump shotgun. Get size 8 shot for small game and rifled slugs for deer


6 posted on 01/04/2005 12:21:56 PM PST by Rudder
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To: andie74
An inexpensive 222/223 single shot handi-rifle will take care of 99% of your needs for very little money. It's not pretty, but it is dead on accurate even with a "cheap" scope.

Here

7 posted on 01/04/2005 12:22:09 PM PST by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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To: andie74

I'd go along with the shotgun suggestion. Try a Remington 870 in 20 guage. Easy for a woman to handle, and can use a variety of loads for different applications. Probably the most versitile gun there is.


8 posted on 01/04/2005 12:22:24 PM PST by sangoo
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To: andie74
Hmm can't really help you out on the gun stuff. But I usually stayed with my Uncle who's a tobacco Farmer in the summer when i was younger. So i can toss an opinion about dogs.

Basically one dog isn't gonna be enough. You'll need more then one. Fortunately Coyotes are cowards by themselves, unfortunately they don't travel alone to much. If your gonna do the outside dog thing then I'd get more then one. Safety in numbers. If your gonna do the inside dog thing, then one should work. Also if you only keep one or two around and you truly live in the middle of no where i wouldn't tie your dog up. If a pack does come from him he'll be able to get away or if he gets cornered he'll have some more room to fight. Actually the picture brings up a mental image of the goat (i think it was a goat) that gets tied to a post in Jurassic Park when the T-Rex comes from him ;)

Enjoy the farm life!
9 posted on 01/04/2005 12:22:25 PM PST by tfecw (dolphins are the spawn of evil)
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To: andie74
I recommend

10 posted on 01/04/2005 12:22:49 PM PST by 506trooper (No such thing as too much guns, ammo or fuel on board...unless you're on fire)
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To: andie74

Bolt action .30-'06 or a .308. Ammunition is plentiful and so are rifles that shoot these benchmark calibers. These are the Ford and Chevrolet of hunting calibers.


11 posted on 01/04/2005 12:23:38 PM PST by elbucko (Feral Republican)
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To: andie74
FN 5.7...nice, small and handy!

http://www.blackwaterusa.com/btw2004/articles/1206epp.html

12 posted on 01/04/2005 12:23:47 PM PST by antivenom (If your not living on the edge, you're taking up too much damn space!!!)
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To: andie74
A .22 rifle, a 12 shotgun a centerfire rifle and a dog or two.
13 posted on 01/04/2005 12:23:58 PM PST by fso301
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To: andie74
Don't settle for less than a howitzer!


14 posted on 01/04/2005 12:24:16 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (Stay safe in the "sandbox" Greg!)
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To: andie74

For home defense there is nothing better, in my opinion, than a pump action shotgun - the Remington 870 isn't too pretty but does the job. Hard to miss the bad guy, and if you do you have another seven rounds. I'd prefer a 12 gauge but if you want to hunt deer as well, a 20 is better for accuracy and can easily double up for home defense.


15 posted on 01/04/2005 12:24:46 PM PST by free_european
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To: Fierce Allegiance

20 mile sniper.


16 posted on 01/04/2005 12:25:32 PM PST by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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To: andie74

You need multiple weapons.

First, to learn, I would get Ruger 10-22. (A .22 caliber rifle). It's dirt cheap and the bullets are something like 1,000 for $10. Learn with this and/or shoot small varmits (maybe shoot 'em a few time -- semi auto and you can find bannanna clips that fit 200 rounds).

A 12-guage shotgun is handy for all birds and home defense (00 Buck). Get whatever. I would go cheap here, too, unless you plan on being a real hunter. Think pump, not auto.

Deer rifles ---- expensive and a matter of personal taste. Hold off for a year until you know what you want to do.


17 posted on 01/04/2005 12:26:12 PM PST by MeanWestTexan
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To: andie74

20 ga would work well, especially if you can't tolerate the kick...I use one all the time. A 12 ga will pack a real punch and give a little longer range when using slugs for deer since it has a bigger cartridge.


18 posted on 01/04/2005 12:26:13 PM PST by Rudder
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To: andie74

Picking a firearm is quite a personal thing so it's hard to tell somebody else what to get. I started out my collection with a Mossberg 500, 12gauge shotgun, for home defense, a Taurus P140 .40 cal, for concealed carry and a Browning semi-automatic rifle in .270. for long range defense and hunting. My Mossberg and Taurus were inexpensive and they are quite reliable.


19 posted on 01/04/2005 12:26:29 PM PST by Ajnin
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To: TXBSAFH

Nice thud guaranteed!


20 posted on 01/04/2005 12:26:29 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (Stay safe in the "sandbox" Greg!)
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