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To: FBD
The Millenium Bomber arrived at the US border with a bomb in the trunk of his car and written plans to blow up LAX. Were not for the fact that he had a malaria relapse at the border, he would have been successful.

I have no intentions of trying to change or influence what you think. You are going to think what you want to think. I am pointing out that the facts as you know them and the facts as Congress knows them are entirely different. They don't read Vdare and Free Republic.

But, if you think it helps, start another thread.

16 posted on 01/04/2005 11:22:35 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

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19 posted on 01/04/2005 1:02:46 PM PST by citizen (Yo W! Read my lips: No Amnistia by any name!)
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To: Ben Ficklin; Howlin
Do you think they read the 9/11 report, Wm. Buckley, Toney Blankley, David Frum? They all disagree with you along with 75 to 100 REPUBLICAN congress people. You know better. What you're trying to do is convince someone who doesn't know any better.

What you and the others who give sacred status to Pres. Bush's "immigration" reform really want to say is DO NOT CRITISIZE ANY THING THIS PRESIDENT DOES. Why don't you just come out and say it.

Most of us worked our butts off for Bush. That's why I signed on here when I did, because he needed all of our help before the election. He's wrong on this and your incessant defense of it will never make it right and makes you just as disgusting as the democrats defense of Clinton when he was wrong. I believe Pres. Bush is a good man, and his "feelings" are in the way of logic and the reality most of us face. I will not believe he appreciates those blindly loyal to him. I may be wrong, and that is the real tragedy if it is true.

"There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism...The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin...would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities."

Teddy Roosevelt, Republican President (Speech, New York, 1915)

I will not engage you again, until you want to get honest about this invasion. Ben, you were almost there the other day, what happened? Get a new set of talking points? I remember how EVERYONE bitched about the Dem talking points during Clinton.

25 posted on 01/04/2005 3:05:55 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage (Government spends what government recieves plus as much as it can get away with-Milton Friedman)
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To: Ben Ficklin; Fatalis; JustAnotherSavage; Happy2BMe
>"The Millenium Bomber arrived at the US border with a bomb in the trunk of his car and written plans to blow up LAX."<

-I'm fully aware of the millennium bomber thanks. So now you use him as anecdotal evidence that we don't need to worry about terrorists coming through our southern border?


>"I am pointing out that the facts as you know them and the facts as Congress knows them are entirely different."<

HA! Representative James Sensenbrenner, Tom Tancredo, JD Hayworth all have facts, as members of Congress. They have all been shouting from the rooftops the dangers of our open southern border. But their facts don't count in your eyes, I suppose, because they think the Mexican border is a serious threat.

>"They don't read Vdare and Free Republic."<


Really? - Do they read the LA Times, Times magazine, or watch network news?
Do they read Michelle Malkin, David Frum, William F Buckley, or Robert Spencer?

-The link to the story I gave you about terrorists coming through our southern border was to KVOA; Eyewitness News 4, an NBC news affiliate.

KVOA 4 is a kook news site now? Times magazine also?

I won't ignore these "facts", and they don't jive with your point of view.

Michelle Malkin wrote about people who critisize proponents of secure borders here:

Malkin: "Activists smear anyone who wants better borders"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1293482/posts

Time Magazine story on our southern border:

34 posted on 01/04/2005 7:07:39 PM PST by FBD (Report illegals and their employers at: http://www.reportillegals.com/)
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