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9/11 GROUP VOWS TO PUT CONGRESS' 'FEET TO FIRE'(Restrick ILLEGAL ALIENS now)
New York Post ^ | 01/04/2005 | MATTHEW SWEENEY

Posted on 01/04/2005 7:53:09 AM PST by nanak

January 4, 2005 -- Relatives of 9/11 victims vowed yesterday to press Congress to tighten the borders and crack down on illegal immigration. "We're going to hold their feet to the fire," Joan Molinaro, a member of 9/11 Families for a Secure America, said during a press conference at Ground Zero.

Members of the group, which represents families of 300 people who died in the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, said they wanted to remind Congress, which convenes today, that it must revisit border security and tighter identification requirements for visas and driver's licenses.

The group joined Rep. James Sensenbrenner (Wis.), House Judiciary Committee chairman, and some other prominent Republicans last year in a failed attempt to include measures against illegal immigration in the intelligence bill that President Bush signed last month.

Sensenbrenner is expected to re-introduce the legislation today.

Families for a Secure America has charged that the failure to keep out unauthorized aliens led directly to the 9/11 attacks.

The group calls the problem of illegal entry into the country "massive" and warns that it has grown over the past 30 years.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 911families; aliens; congress; dhs; immigrantlist; immigration
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To: JustAnotherSavage

got it! thanks.


61 posted on 01/04/2005 9:15:19 PM PST by FBD (Report illegals and their employers at: http://www.reportillegals.com/)
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To: JustAnotherSavage
JAS

How can you be such a cruel and obviously truly mean to the core patriotic conservative and the Mods still allow you to post on FR?

You certainly have an insight that others are lacking. Your attempt to profile these FROBL’s is despicable and violates every PC rule known and preached by the ACLU!

If ex-Senator Daschle were to read your post, I'm certain that he would scream out loud to his Democrat Party brethren that you should be arrested and confined at Gitmo for 20 years under 24 hr UN guards which the American taxpayer would gladly support.

I am certain Miss Hillary will be researching your evil family tree and probably promoting genocide

The National FROBL’s Foundation will be investigating and categorizing all of your FR Posts for further collegiate courses in Satan Worship Doctorates. This raw research will, I'm certain only be permitted to be viewed by very few elites.




Take care and best wishes!
62 posted on 01/04/2005 9:17:14 PM PST by B4Ranch (((The lack of alcohol in my coffee forces me to see reality!)))
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To: FBD
Defeatist? Realist is the right term.

The realistic situation in Congress is that the Tancredoists don't have the votes, the remaining republicans don't have the votes, and the democrats don't have the votes.

I'm merely suggesting to you that the compromise has already been made and its just a matter of manufacturing the consent for that compromise.

63 posted on 01/04/2005 9:21:05 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: nanak

Good stuff and all...but where were these people during the Clinton admin. This makes it look like it's the Bush admin's fault...


64 posted on 01/04/2005 9:24:08 PM PST by grumple (I'm too old to worry about whether or not I'm a pain in your ass...)
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To: Ben Ficklin
Tancredo is the only one with balls enough to actually put his plan up for all to see. Everyone else's plan seems to be just rumor and speculation.

-The reality is any "compromised" bill will most likely allow guest workers to go back home after 18 months of work, and collect Social Security. See this article for info on that:
"The criminal raid on Social Security"
Michelle Malkin (archive) January 7, 2004
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/mm20040107.shtml

Are you willing to compromise on that isue? That's what the Rats and Rinos want...and it will bankrupt Social Security.

Tancredo's plan addresses that issue, but not forcefully enough, imo..
H.R.3534 immigration reform bill, below:



-Rep. Tom Tancredo’s Four-Point Plan for Immigration Control:

1. Secure our Nation’s Borders
2. Establish a Genuine Guest Worker Program
3. Improve “Interior Enforcement” of Immigration Laws
4. Remove Incentives for Illegal Immigration


"The United States has lost control over its immigration policy. Over one million persons enter our nation illegally each year and we have antiquated and error-prone systems for knowing who our legal visitors are and for enforcing their visa time limits. Every poll shows that over 75% of citizens support border security and strict enforcement of our immigration laws. They want our immigration policies fixed.

Here is my four-point plan for achieving control of our borders and enforcing sensible immigration policies."


1. Secure our Nation’s Borders

Increase Border Patrol manpower from the present 11,500 to 20,000 (HR 3534).

Use the U.S. Military until the Border Patrol reaches that manpower level (HR 277).

Accelerate the use of new technology and Unmanned Aerial Vehicles to identify and help apprehend smugglers and trespassers.

Double the capacity of the detention centers for apprehended trespassers.

End the “catch and release” policy by instituting fines and jail time for repeat offenders.

Require stiff prison sentences for convicted “coyotes” and felons who return to the U.S. after deportation.

Accelerate the implementation of the “USVISIT” biometric identifier program for all foreign nationals entering the country through our ports of entry.

2. Establish a Genuine Guest Worker Program

Enact a genuine Guest Worker Bill (HR 3534) to allow any foreign national to enter the US legally to work for up to one year in a job that cannot be filled by a citizen.

Require employers to advertise all jobs on an internet bulletin board and for two weeks before hiring a Guest Worker.

Require illegal aliens already in the U.S. to first return home and apply for jobs through the legal processes.
3. Improve “Interior Enforcement” of Immigration Laws

Provide adequate resources to the “Detention and Removal” branch of the Bureau of Customs and Immigration Enforcement (BICE) to allow apprehension and removal of all criminal aliens.

Enact the “CLEAR” Act (HR 2671) to give local law enforcement incentives and reimbursements for participating in immigration law enforcement.

Establish stiff fines and tax penalties for employers who violate the law by hiring illegal aliens, and devote adequate resources to identify and prosecute those employers.
4. Remove Incentives for Illegal Immigration

Employers who hire illegal aliens should face stiff fines and tax penalties (see#2 above).

Federal and State agencies should be prohibited from recognizing the Mexican Government’s “Matricula Consular” ID card.

States that grant driver’s licenses to illegal aliens should suffer loss of federal highway funds.

Children born to illegal aliens should not be given citizenship status (HR 1567).

Federal court rulings and other policies that require health and educational services to illegal aliens should be overturned.

Amend Social Security Act to deny credits for wages earned in illegal employment or to self-employed engaged in illegal activities (HR 1631).

Insist that the Government of Mexico extradite felony criminals who retreat into Mexico.

Encourage the Government of Mexico to repeal its Dual Citizenship law.
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See original at Rep. Tancredo's website
http://www.house.gov/tancredo/Immigration/

I find nothing offensive or wrong with Tancredo's plan.

regards

65 posted on 01/04/2005 9:40:48 PM PST by FBD (Report illegals and their employers at: http://www.reportillegals.com/)
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To: FBD
Entitlement programs financed by hispanics for the benefit of whites
66 posted on 01/04/2005 9:58:09 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: FBD

bump.


67 posted on 01/04/2005 10:34:35 PM PST by sarah_f (Know Islam, Know Terror.)
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To: ALIPAC

Mr Gaheen's response corrected a notion I mistakenly had Thanks. I am still unconvinced that stricter controls will in any way curb or deter evil bastards out to commit mayhem . And I am even more skeptical of the value of widows and orphans as spokespersons for change.
Mr. Gaheens scornful depiction of a few widows cum Kerry worshipers ratifies my skepticism.
Being misinformed is bad. Being stupid is worse. The venture as described smells to high heaven. Who are these people? What really is the game?


68 posted on 01/04/2005 11:46:00 PM PST by CBart95
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To: FITZ

That's kinda my point. Are these "FIXES" going to stop terrorism or even act as a deterrent? Immigration is way the hell out of control on purpose...that is, by intention and collective agreement.
Going after reforms through a door marked "Stopping Evil" is wrong headed. This is a law enforcement problem. Not a legislation exercise. And fancy pants lawyers and teary-eyed widows do not inspire anything except ice-cold skepticism.


69 posted on 01/04/2005 11:58:13 PM PST by CBart95
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To: Marine Inspector

My. Thanks for the enlightenment.


70 posted on 01/05/2005 12:00:52 AM PST by CBart95
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To: yavapai
This group ought to allow everyone that's interested to join the group. They would have millions in short order.

You can say that again! Where do I sign up?

71 posted on 01/05/2005 12:31:42 AM PST by AnimalLover ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?))
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To: CBart95
I found that a good old-fashioned swish of Listerine works best after barfing up the fruit flavored drink mix served up by the servants of those profiting at our expense. Having grown used to having the high costs of their illegal laborers picked up by we taxpayers (in education, health care, cultural integrity, etc.) these modern-day plantationers dare to call US who dare oppose them racist and intolerant. I think it's plain who's on the side of fairness, humane treatment, the rule of law and the advancement of America's and Mexico's citizens - opposing those who's lust for short-term profit and power would find them killing the Golden Goose for good if allowed.

The way our illegal immigration problem is handled by it's defenders in our government and the general media (compared to other serious threats) is it's own lesson on how corruption only leads to more corruption.

72 posted on 01/05/2005 2:11:35 AM PST by NewRomeTacitus
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To: Ben Ficklin

Now you want to qualify your statement, typical!


73 posted on 01/05/2005 6:11:13 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: JustAnotherSavage; Ben Ficklin

Exactly who here on Free Republic is advocating open borders?


74 posted on 01/05/2005 6:19:04 AM PST by Howlin (I need my Denny Crane!)
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To: Marine Inspector
Wrong. #33 states that Bush made the statements, and as you pointed out, there was a corresponding press release made at the same time.

I pointed out that the Bush plan does not exist in Congress and consequently has no viability to be considered or negotiated by Congress.

If there is no Bush bill as an alternative to the many bills that do exist, why are many in the media and at FR saying that Bush is leading us down that path to ruination?

Since Tancredo has publicly stated that the bill that comes out of Congress will be worse than the Bush Plan, why are many in the media and at FR saying that Bush is leading us down the path to ruination?

75 posted on 01/05/2005 7:14:06 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
I pointed out that the Bush plan does not exist in Congress

Your exact words were, "But there is something very odd about the Bush Plan, it doesn't exist."

The plan does exist, as I pointed out. Now you want to call it the Bush ‘Bill.’ It was never a ‘Bill’; it was always a 'plan'.

Everyone in Congress knew a Amnesty/Guest Worker program would not fly in an election year, so no 'Bill' was introduced, except Cornyn's and Tancredo's.

The lack of support for their bills has more to do with who they are then the lack of support for a Amnesty/Guest Worker program.

You'll see many bills formatted on Bush's plan coming soon. Democrats and RINO's will support this fiasco, while a few good men and women will oppose it and be labeled racists and such.

76 posted on 01/05/2005 8:33:51 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Ben Ficklin
Since Tancredo has publicly stated that the bill that comes out of Congress will be worse than the Bush Plan, why are many in the media and at FR saying that Bush is leading us down the path to ruination?

Because the groundwork for this fiasco was laid down by President Bush. His plan is a fiasco and the idiots in Congress will make it worst.

77 posted on 01/05/2005 8:36:02 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Ben Ficklin
- Actually, the title of the article is:
"More U.S. Births, A Bit Less Stress On Social Security"

That's not very honest to change the title of a link;
and it will be the last link from you, that I will click on because of it.

The subject of the article was about birth rates, not "Entitlement programs financed by hispanics for the benefit of whites."

What kind of a damn lie was that?


THAT article had absolutely NOTHING to do with illegal aliens aka "guest workers" who will be eligible to collect social security after only 18 months of paying into the system.

That Global Action On Aging" website is an extremely liberal/socialist site, with an office at the U.N.
Their mission statement HERE:

http://www.globalaging.org/about_gaa/mission.htm

"...Global Action on Aging carries out research on critical emerging topics and publishes the results. It distributes news both directly, through its own publications, and through the mass media. It maintains a presence at the United Nations Headquarters in New York and participates in major UN events and conferences...."

They also bash President Bush's privatization plan on social security. HERE:
http://www.globalaging.org/index.htm

"US: The Devil is in the Details of the Bush Social Security Privatization
This writer lays out the tactics that Bush and privatization advocates will use to persuade US citizens that Social Security “must” be changed. Don’t let the wool be pulled over your eyes!"

Are you a liberal/socialist? Tell me the truth; be honest with me, and don't give me any more links to socialist sites, and then dishonestly change the name of the article, OK?
78 posted on 01/05/2005 9:20:18 AM PST by FBD (Report illegals and their employers at: http://www.reportillegals.com/)
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To: FBD
Yes, my link symbol was different from the article title. Although it was a good article in many respects, I was actually trying to point you to a particular passage within the article, that dealt with that subject of hispanics, whites, and entitlements. Had you bothered to read the article, you would know that.

Yes, you are right about the council. But, once again, had you bothered to read the article, you would have noticed that the particular passage was being quoted from an article published by the Heritage Foundation. Not hardly a socialist group.

79 posted on 01/05/2005 10:20:43 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Marine Inspector

Thanks for the fact sheet. This is where the Totalization Agreement with Mexico comes into play. Bush is admitting that he cannot control jack-sh!t about Mexicans. He has to promise American Social Security to control the Mexicans.


80 posted on 01/05/2005 10:21:31 AM PST by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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