Posted on 01/02/2005 1:38:00 AM PST by nickcarraway
NASCAR promoters hoping to build a huge racetrack on Staten Island say they can manage traffic, but critics wonder if they're just going around in circles.
The 80,000-seat, $550 million stadium would be built in the northwest corner of the borough, between two chronically choked highways and near the notoriously slow two-lane Goethals Bridge.
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So, those mountains in the background were actually Great Kills?
I wonder what would be said by any radio host if someone referred to pro football and pro basketball players as, "a bunch of black boys who don't have the skills to drive race cars?"
I have no idea at which angle those commercials were shot but the mounains certainly were not garbage. The only reason I know this is that I lived within walking distance of Clove Lake park and someone who worked in a stable located there told me about commercials.
I was just kidding.
Goodie.
I've never understood the appeal of NASCAR.
I see it on TV and to me it just looks like a bunch of cars racing around a track. Pretty boring if you ask me, watching that for hours and hours.
Football and baseball are far more entertaining to watch.
Hate Crime Alert! /s
I lived down the street next to the zoo. I remember Clove Lakes more for the Wednesday night concerts in the 60's.
I think this NASCAR idea is a joke at least from the logistics angle. Knowing the area and roadways and now being in an area where a NASCAR event is held there is no way it can be done. A football game gets maybe 100,000. A NASCAR race is 5 times that size.
You're probably right. Racism is a one-way street.
I'm not a huge fan so I think I can help you out here. I'm astounded by the amazing skill they have to drive a projectile among a pack of other projectiles at speeds that would fill your drawers twice over. It's that simple for me.
The broadcast technology and some smart production teams have combined to give you sights and sounds that take a race from a bunch of multi-colored product logos going round and round to one where you almost feel like you're in the car. This is not the old Chris Economaki in the pits throwing it back to Chris Schenkel days. [Taking nothing away from either man.]
The in-cockpit views allow you to better understand what the pack going around is really like because you see the [non] distances between the cars. The wall-mounted boom allows you to hear the awesome power of the pack because it picks up the multiple whips as they fly by. When you put them together, and your brain does a fine job of it, you find yourself saying, "Holy ___! I can't park my car that close to someone on a good day. How can they be that close on all sides going 200 mph?"
So check out the next race for those features and see if you don't come away with a better understanding of the allure. Like I said, I'm not a big race fan, but I sure appreciate how and what they do.
I'm getting too old. The concerts were at Silver Lakes not Clove Lakes. But I used to hang out at the Clover Club near the corner of Victory and Clove Road. The stables were owed by the Franshrip (not sure the spelling is correct) who were family friends. I played basketball for St Peters.
Let me be serious for a minute, Nascar is no longer a lot of good old boys racing cars with others watching them. Its become a big business. Nascar has no traditions any more no matter how they try to insist they do. They call them stock cars when there isnt a stock item on any of these cars.
They took the venues that made them and closed them up when it became more profitable to race on new tracks, No more Southern 500. Its all about money and sponsores now.
If you dont have a rich guy sponsoring you or a daddy who drove you can forget ever driving a Nascar race.
If New York gets a track who's race will they steal?
I enjoy watching the races but its not the same. Never will be.
That is a great explanation.
I'm not a big fan but do like to watch some of the races. My son, who is a big fan, likes the racing but would not miss the pit stop strategy. His big thing, and mine too, is the precision, ability, agility and teamwork of the pit crews. A well trained Infantry Squad could learn from them.
Kennedy said the track probably could not be completed until 2009 or 2010. The parcels that were purchased by an ISC subsidiary, 380 Development, include a 450-acre waterfront tract owned by GATX Corp., and a 1-acre parcel bought from an unidentified owner.
The subsidiary also plans to spend $10 million to buy an additional 236 acres from Duke Energy in January. In all, ISC wants to acquire 660 acres, which it said would be the largest undeveloped block of land within New York City.
IMHO anytime when Ole Miss people get together it is a strange mix. That is the only time that I am loyal to Tennessee.
The liberals think that they will increase their number of voters by turning them into NASCAR Moms and Dads. It won"t work.
With your Island knowledge you would be able to picture what the Goethals bridge would look like on race day. The cars would be backed up to Summit. The Island used to be a pretty quite place years back prior to the V bridge.
And I don't understand the allure of many other things. When your dad was a motorhead all his life and you spend your youth at small dirt tracks in New York, the grease gets under your fingernails. Each to his own.
Agreed. The idea of a hundred thousand NASCAR fans decending on NYC is hilarious!
NECKCAR in New York!!! I never thought I'd live to see the day.
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