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On Ducks And Homosexuality
RedState.org ^ | Dec. 17, 2004 | Treowth

Posted on 01/01/2005 3:36:30 AM PST by Lindykim

In a recent debate between myself and some radical homosexuals, one of them asked me, by way of refutation whose implicit intentions were to convince me that I am a 'hateful homophobe' and also to persuade me that homosexual behavior is a 'natural orientation," if and when I had 'chosen' to be heterosexual. "Was it at age 3, 6, 13, 19?" he asked, "Or did you (a female) just 'naturally' gravitate towards boys or men without any outside pressure or force?"

My response:

There was no 'choice'........there was never any question........it simply occured as naturally as breathing air. Now for yourself, 'something' occured that interfered with your natural progression towards manhood that, in effect, stunted this natural process in much the same way as a baby duck can have its natural progression towards becoming a mature duck interfered with. This usually occurs when a human causes the chick to imprint upon the human rather than upon an adult duck. So does the 'interference' with natural progression make the baby duck into something other than a duck? That the chick seems to believe itself to be, and even tries to be human make it human in fact? Of course not. It's still a duck in every sense of what it means to be a duck. Just as you are still a heterosexual despite that you believe you are 'something else'.

Should duck society and the laws of nature by which that society exists be overturned and forced to become upside-down in order to accomodate improperly imprinted ducks? Of course not. That would be insane. Just as it is dangerously insane for "improperly imprinted" human beings to demand that heterosexual society and the laws of nature by which it needs to exist should be turned upside-down in order to accomodate them.

What happened to the duck was wrong. What happened to you was not just wrong, but horribly tragic. However, for the greater good of our civilization, you and others like you should not be advocating that society and the innocence of childhood be swept aside and made to accept that "improper imprintation" is somehow a 'good' thing. Although you ardently wish to pretend otherwise, you do know deep down inside yourself that it isn't.

What you should be doing.......for the GOOD of all mankind and most especially for children........is learning {gaining wisdom} from your suffering in order that you can PREVENT what happened to you from happening to other children. That would be not just love, but agape, the highest form of love........love that calls for self-denial and self-sacrifice for the good of others


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To: Melinda in TN

You sound like a mother who loves her daughter, and grandaughter. With all of this support, they will be okay.


121 posted on 01/01/2005 12:28:58 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: Delphinium

Speak of the devil, check out this website {only one of many}:

Gay Patong----Phukets Gay Directory http://www.thailandtravelforums.com/Gay_Patong_L3317


122 posted on 01/01/2005 12:46:55 PM PST by Lindykim
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To: Lazamataz
Actually, the word for 'faggot' in Spanish is "Pato"; which for some unknown reason is also the word for duck.

I know, I know. Who cares?.

:-)
123 posted on 01/01/2005 12:49:40 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: Bon mots

What's all this gay duck stuff?????

I'm a married, hetro, much-loved duckie.......


124 posted on 01/01/2005 12:52:50 PM PST by duckbutt ( Warning: Dates in calendar are closer than they appear)
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To: Melinda in TN

Thank you so much for sharing your story.


125 posted on 01/01/2005 1:26:03 PM PST by DameAutour (Yes, I know what my problem is. My problem is I'm right.)
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To: Slings and Arrows
LOL!

126 posted on 01/01/2005 1:37:55 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Lindykim
I know, I did a search too.

What bothers me is they are all sites that advertise this perversion.

Where are the legitmate reports about the evil of selling these children?

I guess Savage was raging on about not wanting the US to pay to rebuild these evil places.
127 posted on 01/01/2005 1:38:18 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: Jaysun

No problem. We're brothers - both male. It was a large Catholic family. Lots of brothers and sisters. Parents still happily married. Dad was around, very involved and loving parent. The two have had their ups and downs but my brother is probably the closest to my parents of any of us. He is the one who does the most for them now that they are older.

Never sexually abused. I didn't know it at the time but he was picked on some by other kids when he was in middle school who accused him of being gay because he had more friends who were female than male. He was a little effiminate.

I won't lie. It was pretty horrible when he first told us that he was gay. It got ugly. There were many attempts to get him to change. We drove ourselves and him insane. Then we had a real scare with one of my nephews being sick and there he was being his usual caring self - doing whatever he could to help and we kind of got it. He was different. He had always been different but he was and is an integral part of our family. It's been over 15 years now and not something we think about much anymore.

I don't agree with some of his political positions but it's kind of handy having a gay brother. He taught me how to play Nintendo so I could keep up with my sons. He fixes my computer. He is always available to watch the kids, he always knows what presents to get people. But the most handy thing is that he helps explain my wife to me. Like when I can't figure out what I said or did to get her mad, he can. VERY HANDY!


128 posted on 01/01/2005 1:43:09 PM PST by PFC
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To: ChefKeith; tubebender; glock rocks

So does the 'interference' with natural progression make the baby duck into something other than a duck? That the chick seems to believe itself to be, and even tries to be human make it human in fact? Of course not. It's still a duck in every sense of what it means to be a duck.




Quack ping


129 posted on 01/01/2005 1:56:37 PM PST by WestCoastGal ("If you can't run with the big dogs, you'd better go sit on the porch." (Daytona 50 days);-)
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To: PFC
He is always available to watch the kids,

So are you telling your children that it is natural?

Many child molesters are claiming that they too are naturally what they were meant to be.

As a licensed counselor I attended seminars about people who molest children.

In many cases they insist they started feeling these desires at a very young age.

were the born that way?

I don't mean this as hateful, or condemning, I am just wanting to discuss.
130 posted on 01/01/2005 1:57:23 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: Jaysun

Jesse Jackson says "Stay Out o'da Duck"

LOL! I remember him saying that, "stay out o'da bushes" in 2000"

Rev. Jesse Jackson should have practiced what "preached," and stayed out o'da bushes in a timely manner. He stayed IN da bushes too long in L.A. and ended up with an illegitimate baby!! LOL


131 posted on 01/01/2005 2:05:52 PM PST by melancholy
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To: Lindykim

Maybe this is why it's called Phuket?


132 posted on 01/01/2005 2:13:02 PM PST by melancholy
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To: Lindykim
...love that calls for self-denial and self-sacrifice for the good of others...

Yes -cease and desist selfish promotion of excrement impaction.

To chose someone of the same sex for one's sexual activity is to contravene the meaning, not to mention the goals, of natural sexual design. Homosexual activity is not a complementary union, able to transmit life; and so it thwarts the call to a life of that form of self-giving which is the essence of family living. This does not mean that homosexual persons are not often generous and giving of themselves; but when they engage in homosexual activity they confirm within themselves a disordered sexual inclination which is essentially self-indulgent.

As in every moral disorder, homosexual activity prevents one's own fulfillment and happiness by acting contrary to the natural order. Society, in rejecting erroneous opinions regarding homosexuality, does not limit but rather defends personal freedom and dignity realistically and authentically understood.

133 posted on 01/01/2005 2:13:13 PM PST by DBeers
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To: Delphinium
So are you telling your children that it is natural?

One of my sons once asked him why he didn't have a wife and kids. I was a little apprehensive but my brother simply aswered not all grown ups get married or have kids. We've stuck with that. If they ask directly, we'll answer directly and say we don't know why he is that way but he is. If you are asking if we have worries about my brother molesting anybody. The answer is no. Not in a million years.

134 posted on 01/01/2005 2:20:34 PM PST by PFC
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To: PFC
Well thanks for your candor. Everything I've read, and I've read a considerable amount on the subject, leads me to believe that homosexuality rears it's ugly head because of some developmental problem or abuse in childhood. In fact, I once posted an article written in a Catholic paper on the subject here on FR. The message ended up being lost because some home-schoolers saw it as an attack on their craft. I didn't believe it was, but I'll look for the link and you can decide for yourself.....

Here it is
135 posted on 01/01/2005 3:01:21 PM PST by Jaysun (DEMOCRATS: "We need to be more effective at fooling people.")
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To: Jaysun

I agree that this could be part of the reason but what about men who grow up with strong, masculin, loving fathers?


136 posted on 01/01/2005 3:21:19 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: Jaysun

Don't know how much that fits. He had brothers. He was close to our Dad. Had male friends when little. Went to an all boys school til 6th grade. No abuse. But when in middle school he made friends with girls easier than guys. Used to try to figure it out but I don't know why he's gay, he just is. But my wife comes from a large family, I come from a large family - you get all kinds. But they are all family.


137 posted on 01/01/2005 3:39:16 PM PST by PFC
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To: Fiddlstix

Gay ducks = chickenhawks.


138 posted on 01/01/2005 3:47:32 PM PST by Texas Songwriter (p)
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To: PFC
Don't know how much that fits. He had brothers. He was close to our Dad. Had male friends when little. Went to an all boys school til 6th grade. No abuse. But when in middle school he made friends with girls easier than guys. Used to try to figure it out but I don't know why he's gay, he just is.

Yes, that's why your post was so intriguing.... Well, I suppose all rules have their exceptions. Happy New Year.
139 posted on 01/01/2005 3:47:49 PM PST by Jaysun (DEMOCRATS: "We need to be more effective at fooling people.")
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To: garbanzo

That is a good thing, right?


140 posted on 01/01/2005 3:49:53 PM PST by Texas Songwriter (p)
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