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Elders' Knowledge of the Oceans Spares Thai 'sea Gypsies' From Tsunami Disaster
The Associated Press ^ | Dec 31, 2004 | Anon

Posted on 12/31/2004 9:06:24 PM PST by Pharmboy

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To: jpsb

"I have lived on the water all my life, and I have on numerous occasion seen very very low tides, but I have never seen a tsunami. 20/20 hind sight isn't really all that cool."

Tides sneak out. Tidal waves rush out. You would see it as a very strange thing, and either be mesmerized or running.


121 posted on 01/01/2005 1:29:09 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: USNBandit

Those pictures were posted on another thread saying the family made it. It turns out the pictures were taken at Krabi, not Ko Phi Phi.


122 posted on 01/01/2005 2:17:04 PM PST by USNBandit (Florida military absentee voter number 537.)
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To: Calpernia
NOAA had computer generated models of the Tsunami hours before it hit and sent out information bulletins with warnings.

Did the death toll need to be this high if there was forewarnings?

>>>>>

Of course they knew and it took hours for the wave to hit the mainland. They, at the very least could have called: the BBC, CNN and FOX if they didn't know who to call, at least someone of importance may have been watching.

They probably didn't want to upset the tourism industry or create a false panic had they been wrong.

A tsunami could probably happen to us here on the east coast too and I bet there are no warning devices or emergency plans for us if there is one. Call the port authority and state police on monday and see what they say.

123 posted on 01/01/2005 2:36:34 PM PST by Coleus (Let us pray for the 125,000 + victims of the tsunami and the 126,000 aborted Children killed daily)
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To: Calpernia
Did the death toll need to be this high if there was forewarnings?

It appears the NOAA did the right thing. Shoot, there were questions about a possible tsunami right here on FR minutes after the earthquake was detected (before the MSM had even broadcast anything about a quake). This was hours and hours before any waves hit. All sorts of junior oceanographers and statisticians offered theories and speculation, many with fear and trepidation about what might lie ahead after such a large quake. (I'll see if I can find the thread for you. Going back and reading it after the fact is quite fascinating.) Yes, all the signs were there, and villages and resorts in the region could have easily been given a BOLO for possible shoreline activity.

I have, however, seen Thai government officials admit that yes, they were warned several hours in advance, but this was the height of the tourist season, and what if they called for an evacuation but there turned out to be no danger? The tourists would be mad. Couldn't have that happen. No, they just decided to adapt a wait-and-see attitude. Only they waited way too long.

124 posted on 01/01/2005 2:53:46 PM PST by shezza
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To: Calpernia
Here you go...read this thread on FR regarding the initial reportings of the earthquake and subsequent speculation of a tsunami being generated:
Magnitude 9.0 Earthquake - OFF THE WEST COAST OF NORTHERN SUMATRA
USGS Earthquake Hazards ^ | 2004 December 26 00:58:55 UTC
Posted on 12/25/2004 8:46:26 PM EST by bd476

I think you'll find the thread quite interesting.

125 posted on 01/01/2005 3:08:37 PM PST by shezza
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To: Calpernia

I guess they thought it could never happen to them. When was the last Tsunami?


126 posted on 01/03/2005 5:59:15 PM PST by Coleus (Let us pray for the 125,000 + victims of the tsunami and the 126,000 aborted Children killed daily)
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To: Coleus

>>>I guess they thought it could never happen to them. When was the last Tsunami?


::Crude Opinion from what I read at NOAA::

We have a buoy tracking system in the Pacific. There are also monitoring systems that share alerts with Japan and Australia (Pacific).

There is no buoy system in the Indian Ocean. The reason for this wasn't blatantly clear. When I find answers hard to come by, from my experience, it is due to politics.

Our tracking system picked up the initial report of reading 8.0. This was confirmed with Australia. The initial alert that went out in the warning bulletins was 8.0. This information went right up to a NOAA office in Seattle that generated THIS: http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/video/tsunami-indonesia12-2004.qt predicted model of what would come from that earthquake. As we got more data, updated reports went out on the information bulletins.

Some Asian countries (like Indonesia) picked up *smaller* earthquake readings and didn't lend the reports we issued validity. This is the reason for the different reports on the magnitude. They took their reading own readings of 6.5 vs. our report from NOAA of 8.0.


127 posted on 01/03/2005 6:08:19 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: jpsb

They all miraculously survived.....Mother, BIL, brother, 3 sons and Father and Aunt on the beach......


128 posted on 01/03/2005 8:21:39 PM PST by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: hoosiermama

No way! How do you know they survived?


129 posted on 01/03/2005 8:35:17 PM PST by jpsb
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To: jpsb

Interview with the mother was published....Think this is the thread.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1312177/posts?page=81,19


130 posted on 01/03/2005 8:49:14 PM PST by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: jpsb

MORE:

In fact, I watched an interview on Swedish television with the family, and one of the kids stated that when the first wave hit them, he bodysurfed to the shore.



203 posted on 01/03/2005 2:12:53 PM EST by Eurotwit


131 posted on 01/03/2005 8:51:47 PM PST by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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