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Tsunami Must Be Fault of the US
The Australian ^ | December 31, 2004 | Gerard Baker

Posted on 12/31/2004 12:56:16 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

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To: Mr. Mojo; West Coast Conservative

<< Envy unrelentingly eats away at the rest of the world. >>

Oh, Dear Lord -- but ain't it so!

And is the only one of the seven deadlies that has no "reward" whatsover -- and leads inexorably and inevitably into the hatred and rage that so characterizes the increasingly-hesperophobic attitudes of the rest of the world's peoples to US.


21 posted on 12/31/2004 1:41:09 PM PST by Brian Allen (For there is born to you this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord -- Luke 2:11)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Cutting and pasting your response and shipping out to her as we speak!! ROTFLOL


22 posted on 12/31/2004 1:41:21 PM PST by ChicagoRighty (Surrounded by libbies and damn tired of it!)
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To: ChicagoRighty
She is a total idiot. An ant cannot affect the movement of the plates in the earth.
23 posted on 12/31/2004 1:42:02 PM PST by YOUGOTIT
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To: YOUGOTIT

>> She is a total idiot. <<

No sir, you are off base with that remark.

She is a Kool-aid drinking idiot, thank you.


24 posted on 12/31/2004 1:43:41 PM PST by ChicagoRighty (Surrounded by libbies and damn tired of it!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

The MSM and the libs coud not blame Pres. Bush directly for the catastrophe , so they had to criticize him for remaining in Texas instead of rushing to Sumatra for a tearful showboating. But, I hear M Moore and O Stone are already looking into a neo-con conspiracy and cover-up.


25 posted on 12/31/2004 1:46:20 PM PST by citizencon
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To: West Coast Conservative

Phooey on the ungrateful kangaroo-chasers down under! They would be speaking Japanese if not for the United States of America.


26 posted on 12/31/2004 1:50:00 PM PST by Doctor Don
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To: ChicagoRighty
Here is an excerpt from the 'warm-up' email they sent out yesterday. She rubs this sh** in my face.....

Ask to see the cancelled check for what she has sent. My experience is that the more they demand to government spend on charity, the less willing they are to spend any of their own cash.

27 posted on 12/31/2004 1:50:04 PM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: ChicagoRighty
The earth is approximately 5 BILLION years old. During that 5 billion years, fire reigned for hundreds of millions, then a liquid chemical cocktail, later a more watery chemical cocktail, then microbes had their turn at supremacy for a few hundred million years, and then larger life forms, and larger ones, and larger ones. Millions of species have evolved and become extinct due to climactic change over those billions of years. Hominids have only been on this planet for about 2 million years. Homo Sapiens has only been around since the tail end of the latest Ice Age. We're Jesuit an example of the post megafauna era which the last ice age birthed, according to modern science.

The circumference of Earth is 24,902 mi, or 40,076 km. The surface is composed of about 2/3 water and one third hardened magma covered layered with rotted plant and animal byproducts mixed with powdered and decomposed minerals (soil). These pieces of hardened magma and other stuff float on an extremely dense, extremely hot core of molten metal. While floating on this spinning, molten ocean, these hunks of hardened magma and other stuff, called plates, move like like your rubber ducky or toy sailboat did in the tub when you were a kid.

When two plates bump together, they rub and grind against one another. When they get stuck on their course, they are the proverbial indestructible force fighting the immovable object. They keep on trying to move. Energy builds up, and up, and up...until it reaches the breaking point, and gives, unsticking the plates to move on their merry way. The release of this massive amount of energy manifests in the form of an earthquake.

In the case of the one that caused the tsunami, the Oceanic Aussi plate is diving UNDER the European one at a rate of about 6cm a year (IIRC). That's warp speed in geologic terms. Naturally, ever since we started keeping records, this fault has always been very active. Earthquakes happen on it several times a year.

It's a fascinating, powerful, large, unimaginably old planet we live on, not a soap bubble. There is no amount of explosive we humans could produce to cause this quake: the force would have building up for MANY years in order to reach this magnitude.

Ice ages and warming periods, divided up into geologic ages last for tens of millions of years and are cyclic in nature. We puny humans were not responsible for the geologic cycles of the planet we live on. If anything, it's the other way around. Those cyclical geologic ages brought us...US.

Wile very long, this is still a oversimplified summary, missing a LOT of information. Tell her to try educating herself, instead of lazily sucking up the pap fed to her by a bunch of greedy idiots who need her donations in order to avoid getting REAL jobs

28 posted on 12/31/2004 1:50:08 PM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: ChicagoRighty
Your relative is personally responsible, you might say, for the dumbing down of socialist-driven "public education" and that of her allied fascists among the followers of Islam, enabling a state of decline that left several hundred thousand at the mercy of their social directorates, which claim to be all-knowing and all-seeing.

Elsewhere at this forum, there was recently a report from some college or convention of Islamic scholars, who concluded that they and especially the teachers of Islam, are their own biggest problem, that they have let down their own people, that they have denigrated scientific achievement and technological advancement, leaving their people unprepared for their own individual advancement and responsibilities.

On the evening when the first reports came in to FR, of the earthquake, probably more than 80% of the people monitoring Free Republic, quickly became concerned in regard to the possiblity of a tsunami.

Why is that?

Because they have read up on the effects, what can happen, as a result of such an undersea earthquake.

So, at least a "tsunami watch" may have been called.

There is not a news center in the area of the disaster, that could not have done the same thing; even more so, given their proximity to water and accustomed concerns for notices to mariners and such; it being a way of life, to hear the ocean and look toward it, to see what it is telling you.

Every day, as I drive down the street, it occurs to me, that the yellow stripe in the middle of the street, is no barrier. It occurs to me, that a man or woman wearing a police officer's uniform, might not actually be a cop; that his or her badge, if indeed a cop, is no barrier to their abuse of their right to keep and bear Arms. It occurs to me that little old ladies actually do carry .38 snub-nose S&W pistols.

I have not one, but two fire alarms; not one but four five fire extinguishers; several flashlights, lots of batteries, and spare lines.

Every time I fly, I am in awe of God's blessing and thankful for a safe flight.

I am aware, that what is happening, what might be happening, and what some may plan to have happen, are all only a part of what will happen.

Yet socialists never fail to prove that, for them, all things happen as a consequence of the inequilibrium of money --- they dream of getting control over all of it, and until they do, they mean for everybody to be equally unhappy.

A socialist is a person who is obsessively-compulsively envious, jealous, and greedy, regardless of what they express, though much of what they express, is meant to twist some walls around what they want, to cause it to come to them, for their consumption, for their pleasure, or to destroy it.

I remain convinced that many things happen without regard to money, who has it, who does not, who is in power, who is not, who ... who ... who ...

Sometimes, what happens, does, because of other reasons or causes or unseen hands or by God.

29 posted on 12/31/2004 1:51:10 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: ChicagoRighty

Oh Brother....are they that desperate? They are really grasping at straws. Dems are so pathetic....


30 posted on 12/31/2004 1:57:41 PM PST by Sassy_Sissy
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To: West Coast Conservative

This would have been prevented has Komrad Kerry been elected instead of that filthy capitalist Bush. See the communistsforkerry.com website: Glorious Leader Kerry's plans for the Hurricane Shield around the US southeast were obviously intended for extension to southeast Asia.

This shield would have stopped the Bush plot to send 4 hurricanes that prevented Democrats from voting against him in Florida.

Now evil Bush's earthquake and tsumami will allow more American influence in foreign nations - running dog capitalist money attempts to buy honor from the faithful!!

/CommunistforKerry mode off


31 posted on 12/31/2004 2:00:45 PM PST by wvobiwan (Touchdown! Suckers walk...)
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To: ChicagoRighty
The $35 million offered by the Bush administration seems like a lot of money, but it's insignificant compared to what's needed in a disaster relief effort than spans continents and is expected to be the most expensive in history. To put it in perspective, we're spending $35 million in Iraq every 7 hours. (The Bush administration is about to ask for another $80 billion to cover the next installment of this tragic occupation.)

Lesson to be learned: it costs a lot more money to repair the damage inflicted by a murdering dictator and supporters, and the contributing factor of another man made disaster, centuries of Islam...

32 posted on 12/31/2004 2:02:30 PM PST by LRS
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To: YOUGOTIT

Good answer. That is the problem with these environ-whacko types. An inflated view of human beings and their effects on the earth, and an unrealistically small conception of the size and strength of the earth.


33 posted on 12/31/2004 2:02:45 PM PST by jwalburg (Those buried included children still clutching toys)
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To: AlexW

lol right?

All that nuke testing back in the day never started a shiver, but some normal bombs do... riiiiiggghhhttt!!!


34 posted on 12/31/2004 2:07:39 PM PST by Next_Time_NJ (NJ demorat exterminator)
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To: cake_crumb

Thanks for this!


35 posted on 12/31/2004 2:09:22 PM PST by ChicagoRighty (Surrounded by libbies and damn tired of it!)
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To: Ditto

My sentiments, exactly. These people waste and they are corrupt.


36 posted on 12/31/2004 2:10:14 PM PST by ChicagoRighty (Surrounded by libbies and damn tired of it!)
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To: ChicagoRighty
I'm just gobstruck at her seriousness in blaming the administration for the deaths.

The left is in a state of denial not seen since the days of Stalin. If they could find a way to explain away the deaths of hundreds of millions of people at the hands of Communist dictators, why should we expect them to be any more connected to reality now?

The people at DU spend their time explaining why Kerry is going to be inargurated on Jan 20, or if they are slightly less deranged, how Bush is going to be hounded out of office later in 2005 because he stole the election. A few months ago, they were blathering about how even though Dan Rather had been caught redhanded presenting forgeries, he really had more secret stuff that would vindicate the whole Bush TANG thing, and he would be triumphantly plonking them in front of everyone any day.

E J Dionne in the NYT this week explained how, even though the Democrats got trounced in the election, the people actually agree with everything the Democrats believe, and all the leftists need to do is to explain it all better.

I won a bunch of money from deluded leftists who were utterly convinced that George Bush would immediately reinstate conscription as soon as he was reelected.

I can come up with any number of similar examples. I have not seen such head-in-the-sand positions since the days of Jimmy Carter. At this point in time, it's literally impossible to have any reasonable discourse with such people. "You can't argue with a sick mind", as they say. Until these people get shocked back into living in the real world, there is no hope for your quest.

37 posted on 12/31/2004 2:13:58 PM PST by Joe Bonforte
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To: Joe Bonforte

Actually, your summary, tied together with the results of some of the research on the actual subject will end my quest nicely, thanks.


38 posted on 12/31/2004 2:17:26 PM PST by ChicagoRighty (Surrounded by libbies and damn tired of it!)
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To: ChicagoRighty
Yeah, Right....Tin Foil Alert.
39 posted on 12/31/2004 2:18:22 PM PST by Recon by Fire
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To: ChicagoRighty
"that the quake was due in part to the bombing that went on in Iraq."

This no doubt explains the endless series of earthquakes and tsunamis that followed all that bombing in WWII including Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Remember?

Neither do I

40 posted on 12/31/2004 2:19:26 PM PST by muir_redwoods
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