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GOP, You Are Warned
AEI ^ | 29 dec 04 | David Frum

Posted on 12/31/2004 5:43:33 AM PST by white trash redneck

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To: Once-Ler
Have you read the replies on this thread?

Bush Orders Flag Tribute to Tsunami Victims (media bias alert)

I think this is the most recent example of my post.

721 posted on 01/02/2005 4:46:29 AM PST by B4Ranch (((The lack of alcohol in my coffee forces me to see reality!)))
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To: white trash redneck
I disagree with the premise of this article, and predict that the economy, not immigration, will be the most important issue.
The average Mexican was actually poorer in 1998 than he had been in 1981. You'd move too if that happened to you.

I'm poorer now than in 1981. I was earning $40 per hour with heavy overtime back then, but can't find even a part-time job that pays $15 these days.

So where should I move?

722 posted on 01/02/2005 4:57:10 AM PST by snopercod ("When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk." - The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly)
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To: muawiyah

Anglos and Saxons were European tribes more or less.


723 posted on 01/02/2005 5:03:08 AM PST by FederalistVet (Hitler was a liberal!)
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To: muawiyah

It was more taboo among the Anglo-Saxon Protestants after all many of them were Puritan and Quaker religious fanatics. The Anglo-Saxon Catholics and Scottish Catholics and Scottish Freemasons were more likely to mix and less likely to murder than the fanatics.

I don't ever expect the Anglo-Saxon Protestant Historian to tell the truth regarding the crimes of their forefathers. They would prefer to blame disease than face the facts. The Anglo-Saxon Protestant likes to think of himself and his values as morally superior but History discredits that idea.


724 posted on 01/02/2005 5:09:09 AM PST by FederalistVet (Hitler was a liberal!)
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To: Sam the Sham

I hope yu don't believe the Aztecs were the good guys. Try to remember they most of the tribes lived in fear of the Aztecs. The Aztecs even attacked the Spaniards.

The Spaniards survived with the help of the Aztec's Native enemies. Then, the Spaniards kicked butt. The Aztecs got what they came looking for when they attacked the men who were serving in Europe's best Army.


725 posted on 01/02/2005 5:14:16 AM PST by FederalistVet (Hitler was a liberal!)
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To: muawiyah
Hmmmmm. So, what happened in 1754 that shut off the flow of the "best and brightest"?
Is that when the Acadians were deported?
726 posted on 01/02/2005 5:23:52 AM PST by sittnick (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: Once-Ler
I don't think I'm omniscient. I've been proved wrong too many times. Your diversion points out I am human and therefore fallible. It does not refute my position on illegal immigration.

Good for you!
727 posted on 01/02/2005 5:31:25 AM PST by Vision (The New York Times...All the news to fit a one world government)
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To: Once-Ler

As usual you did not bother to answer the question. WHO on FR has put forward ZERO immigration?

On an earlier post you asked me who congresspeople are that oppose open borders/want immigration reform, it's going to take a while to list them all (you know who they are and could look if you cared to), lets start here :
______________________________________________________
Congress of the United States
House of Representatives
Washington, DC 20515-0502

Dec. 14, 2004

Dear [Constituent];
Thank you for contacting me regarding efforts to grant amnesty to aliens illegally living in the United States. I value your point of view, and I appreciate the opportunity to respond.

Legislation has been proposed to allow a blanket amnesty to those persons who have chosen to unlawfully enter the United States and who have stayed despite laws, which prohibit this behaviour.

This proposal causes me great concern. Most of us were immigrants to this country at some time in our family’s past. This does not, however, justify rewarding the illegal activity of contemporary migrants with instant citizenship. While many thousands of legal aliens wait extremely long periods of time (often up to nine years)
for their immigration status to be processed lawfully, it would be unfair and unwise of us to grant amnesty to those who have betrayed our trust and have broken our laws.

I have successfully fought in the past to pass legislation that fundamentally reformed our immigration system, and I will continue to fight toward this end. Illegal immigration costs California taxpayers alone over $3 billion each year. While our reforms have made a critical first step toward reducing this burden, our job is far from complete. As Congress considers any Administration amnesty request, we will need to make some though decisions about the effectiveness of such a program on reducing illegal immigration into the United States..............

Sincerely,
Wally Herger
Member of Congress
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INHOFE SAYS INTELLIGENCE REFORM BILL OVERLOOKS MAJOR ISSUES

Wednesday, December 8, 2004

WASHINGTON--U.S. Sen. James M. Inhofe (R-Okla.) today voted against the final passage of the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 (S.2845), which was eventually approved by the Senate (89-2).

"Today I joined the majority of our Oklahoma delegation in voting against the final passage of this bill," Inhofe said. "While there where many provisions I agreed with, unfortunately there were also glaring omissions that where impossible to overlook and caused me to oppose final passage. snip---www.inhofe.senate.gov
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Hunter, Sensenbrenner Hold Line: Military & Intel, Illegal Aliens & Driver's Licenses
On News/Activism 12/03/2004 9:35:08 AM PST · 46 replies · 1,131+ views
HUMAN EVENTS ^ | Dec 3, 2004 | HUMAN EVENTS
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1293689/posts
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"Others opposed to the guest-worker program were Reps. Lamar Smith, Sam Johnson and John Culberson of Texas; John Hostettler of Indiana; Nathan Deal of Georgia; Ed Royce, Gary G. Miller and Dana Rohrabacher of California; Tom Tancredo of Colorado; John J. "Jimmy" Duncan Jr. of Tennessee; Roscoe G. Bartlett of Maryland; Kevin Brady of Texas; Robert B. Aderholt of Alabama; Charles W. "Chip" Pickering Jr. of Mississippi; John Sullivan of Oklahoma; J. Gresham Barrett of South Carolina; Barbara Cubin of Wyoming; Sue Myrick and Walter B. Jones of North Carolina; and Steve King of Iowa."

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http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c108:1:./temp/~c1084uPlbV::
COSPONSORS(29), ALPHABETICAL [followed by Cosponsors withdrawn]:     (Sort: by date)

Rep Barrett, J. Gresham [SC-3] - 7/22/2004 Rep Bradley, Jeb [NH-1] - 10/6/2004
Rep Culberson, John Abney [TX-7] - 7/22/2004 Rep Davis, Jo Ann [VA-1] - 7/15/2004
Rep DeFazio, Peter A. [OR-4] - 7/22/2004 Rep Doolittle, John T. [CA-4] - 7/15/2004
Rep Duncan, John J., Jr. [TN-2] - 7/15/2004 Rep English, Phil [PA-3] - 7/15/2004
Rep Gallegly, Elton [CA-24] - 7/15/2004 Rep Garrett, Scott [NJ-5] - 7/22/2004
Rep Goode, Virgil H., Jr. [VA-5] - 7/15/2004 Rep Goodlatte, Bob [VA-6] - 11/17/2004
Rep Hayworth, J. D. [AZ-5] - 7/15/2004 Rep Hostettler, John N. [IN-8] - 7/15/2004
Rep Johnson, Sam [TX-3] - 7/15/2004 Rep Jones, Walter B., Jr. [NC-3] - 7/15/2004
Rep King, Steve [IA-5] - 7/15/2004 Rep Manzullo, Donald A. [IL-16] - 9/15/2004
Rep McCotter, Thaddeus G. [MI-11] - 9/15/2004 Rep Miller, Gary G. [CA-42] - 10/6/2004
Rep Miller, Jeff [FL-1] - 7/15/2004 Rep Norwood, Charlie [GA-9] - 7/15/2004
Rep Paul, Ron [TX-14] - 7/22/2004 Rep Royce, Edward R. [CA-40] - 7/15/2004
Rep Sessions, Pete [TX-32] - 9/15/2004 Rep Smith, Lamar [TX-21] - 7/15/2004
Rep Sullivan, John [OK-1] - 7/15/2004 Rep Tancredo, Thomas G. [CO-6] - 7/15/2004
Rep Whitfield, Ed [KY-1] - 7/22/2004
Expressing the disapproval of the House of Representatives of the Social Security totalization agreement between the United States and Mexico. (Introduced in House)


728 posted on 01/02/2005 7:14:56 AM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("As frightening as terrorism is, it's the weapon of losers." P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Once-Ler

You are Absolutely correct my good kind observant soul I am a CONSERVATIVE now and forever. There is a difference and thank you for noticing; spread the word, we need all the help we can muster!


729 posted on 01/02/2005 7:43:50 AM PST by winker
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To: Once-Ler; Travis McGee

>"IOW "My mind is made up, I'm posting to change your opinion but I don't have the intellect to respond to challenges."<

Why should I waste my time with folks like you who continually use slurs like "BUSH BASHER!" "RACIST!" "BIGOT!"

Your "Gang" is using the same tactics the gay activist lobby uses against folks who are opposed to gay marriage.
"Homophobes!" "Gay bashers" "Bigots!"

Real intelligent. REAL conservative.

Michelle Malkin wrote about those who use your tactic HERE:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1293482/posts

"Activists smear anyone who wants better borders"
-By MICHELLE MALKIN

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1293482/posts


731 posted on 01/02/2005 9:02:53 AM PST by FBD (Report illegals and their employers at: http://www.reportillegals.com/)
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To: FBD

I like to look at the silver lining. The race-baiting RINOOBLs keep these threads bumping along to the top. With their unwitting help, these articles are read by ten times more angry middle class Americans than would otherwise get a chance to see them.

How many lurkers and casual freepers get to reply #731 ? Perhaps 1% of those who read the article and the first 50 replies. By constantly tossing the ball back to us, the race-baiting RINOOBLs are doing us a great service. They are just too dense to understand this. Thank Goodness.


732 posted on 01/02/2005 9:31:22 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: JustAnotherSavage
it's going to take a while to list them all (you know who they are and could look if you cared to), lets start here :

COSPONSORS(29)

You are correct. I could find this same list of 30 fringe freaks if I looked for them. What I can't find is the other 70 congressmen you claim exist.

WHO on FR has put forward ZERO immigration?

I will find some Freepers who oppose immigration on the ridiculous grounds that America is overcrowded, when I return home later this evening.

733 posted on 01/02/2005 9:35:11 AM PST by Once-Ler (My name is Once-Ler, King of Kings. Look on my works, ye Mighty, and dispair!)
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To: Travis McGee

>"The race-baiting RINOOBLs keep these threads bumping along to the top. With their unwitting help, these articles are read by ten times more angry middle class Americans than would otherwise get a chance to see them."<


that's a good point, Travis!

Thank you,
All you race baiting RINOS, for bumping these threads!


734 posted on 01/02/2005 9:44:00 AM PST by FBD (Report illegals and their employers at: http://www.reportillegals.com/)
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To: Once-Ler

You can't even count and I can't debate someone who is dishonest.. Do not address me again. Do we need to get the powers on here again to tell you to ..........



To: Once-Ler


Knock it off!
375 posted on 12/17/2004 7:58:01 PM PST by Jim Robinson
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1302385/posts?page=385#375


735 posted on 01/02/2005 9:46:32 AM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("As frightening as terrorism is, it's the weapon of losers." P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: FBD

I am worried that they will sooner or later figure this out, but so far, they are too stupid to understand that they are helping out the cause of securing our borders with every race-baiting reply and bttt.


736 posted on 01/02/2005 9:53:52 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Once-Ler
"SS, unemployment insurance, Medicare payments, OSHA, tariffs and bloated government regulations are not a free market."

Granted, but the solution is to get ourselves out of things that carry undue influence over the free market, rather than digging ourselves in deeper. The jobs market is indeed free to a larger extent than many others. That's why the poison pill of illegal alien (dirt cheap) labor is such a problem. It's created an artificially low pricing on certain manual labor-intensive jobs, especially in construction. It's no different than if the government were to provide massive subsidies for companies to hire only women. If it's next to free to hire only women, then men will be largely unemployed in no time, regardless of their skill or abilities.
737 posted on 01/02/2005 10:36:26 AM PST by NJ_gent (Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.)
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To: Fatalis
"David Dreier believes that mandatory workplace verification will work. So do I."

Another question comes to mind. If compulsory verification was the rule. Seems to me the "day labor" centers, that some cities have put up, and the corners that are frequented by Illegals, will become absolute mob zones.

Although I agree verification, along with denial of services, would cause a very large percentage packing on their own. I can see the verification process being circumvented by the use of "casual", "seasonal" or "day" labor. If these loopholes are not addressed in any verification plan, count on a significant amount of non-compliance by shifty employers. After all, they have already shown they don't care all that much for playing by the rules.
738 posted on 01/02/2005 10:41:00 AM PST by moehoward
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To: Torie
S's plea bargain analogy actually has some merit, if one buys into the fig leaf.

And if one buys into the scenario that someone who has thumbed his nose at, God knows how many, laws, will now all of a sudden feel compelled to observe one, at least while it serves his best interests to. When it no longer does, or times up, "someone" will return to thumbing his nose at the Gringo's law.
739 posted on 01/02/2005 11:00:23 AM PST by moehoward
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To: Once-Ler
"why you were unable to think of it."

I don't like to lie.

740 posted on 01/02/2005 11:31:10 AM PST by jpsb
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