GOP, You Are Warned

AEI ^ | 29 dec 04 | David Frum

[FederalistVet]

Go visit a reservation in New Mexico. Are you so ignorant of American history that I need to present evidence? Have you ever had to pull a Protestant redneck off a native American he was beating or raping? Have you ever had the KKK after you? Have you ever survived an attack by rednecks?

What do they say? Life's a bitch, then you die.

[FederalistVet]

I'm not misinformed. I live in a state that until recently has been pretty much a one party state and that one party (Democrat) was dominated by the KKK. I voted for all three Bushes and Reagan, but I'm fully aware that many of the people that voted for these men are indeed racists. I'm also aware racism does exist in the Hispanic population. Usually, I'll give a particular person the benefit of the doubt, but issues are different than people. If an issue smells of racism it probably is no matter how charismatic the advocates are.

[B4Ranch]

"It's Bush's fault" is even more stupid than highlighting.

[Pelham]

Bush is doing his best to give Hillary an issue she can win with.

[muawiyah]

Do you suppose the folks opposing "illegal immigration" would be less opposed should the folks coming up from Latin America all look like Swedes?

[FederalistVet]

"What other immigration group has ever so monopolized US immigration that Americans had to press 1 for English ??? (and had to foot the bills for translations/educations ??)"

Spanish and French have been spoken in America longer than English.

"Mexico has had the same opportunities/natural resources to become as great as the USA, & yet they remain a third world county in most of their states."

After all our illicit invasions Mexico and all the revolutions our government or citizens have promoted in Mexico including the communist revolution Mexico went thru, this nation that was once so wealthy it produced universities before the United States produced universities is now suffering for the crimes America committed against the native Americans who fled to Mexico to survive the attempt to exterminate them.
Since Mexico lost land (Texas, Arizona, California, New Mexico etc to the United States due to racist policies in Washington DC, Mexico has a lot less to work with than it once had. However, there is hope. Mexico has given the commies the bums rush out of office.

"Name any other 'head of state' that has ever marched into our White House, & made demands of our President, as to what he wanted for his illegal citizens here ?? Mexico also does not back our WOT, & *obviously* never did back the WOD."

We sometimes look like a British puppet and sometimes the British look like ours.

"Don't you think the USA might seem 'somewhat' racist, to the rest of the world, by always allowing Mexico the largest share of *instant legals* ???"

I don't care what the rest of the world thinks.

"I've got Mexicans in my family, they too are sick of this constant invasion from the south, crowded schools, crowded hospitals, & high taxes for all the freebies."

Crowded schools are the result of Democrat mismanagement. Same with the hospitals. High taxes are the result of Democrat and Republican mismanagement.

"and I'm not racist, I've always said deport ALL illegals........we've got millions waiting in lines to come legally, the FIRST"

If you are not native American your ancestors were illegal immigrants.

[investigateworld]

The fact is somebody has to lay the ole Mark 1 eyeball on the employer/employee, I believe the total number is closer to 15 million than the often cited 6 million.
But the underground economy that the illegals operate in makes it difficult to be precise. Of course the only lasting solution is to force changes in Latin America, which simply won't happen as corruption is ingrained in everyday life.
BTW, I would hope that if I had been born in a Third World cesspool, I had the cojones to run, jump etc, to get out of there. But, I would bring my total life experiences with me including a "something for "attitude, and a willingness to buy into the Democratic Party's gimme programs.
Why W didn't seal the border on 9-12-01, I'll never know. But what is for certain, after this group attains legal status, there will be more coming, unless we hire the numbers I stated. Which will be a bargain following the next attack.

[AnimalLover]

But I can sure make life a living hell by protesting to my Congressmen and Senators.

Great idea! If we all did something on a daily basis we'd really drive 'em crazy. Remember, the wheel that squeaks gets the grease. I plan to spend some time New Years day laying out my plan of action.

[FederalistVet]

"Do you suppose the folks opposing "illegal immigration" would be less opposed should the folks coming up from Latin America all look like Swedes?"

I know they wouldn't be waiting with guns to shoot them. I suspect if they were Swedes or Anglo-Saxons they might hang out at the border to welcome them with a tune called "Dixie."

[Pelham]

And I'm for Bush's plan since it's a start

You're always "for Bush's plan", so that's a huge surprise. And you're predictably an apologist for illegal immigration. Where's the rest of your la Raza compadres tonight? Knocking down some Iron City cervezas in the Dane Pennsylvania Bunker? Feliz Ano Neuvo, Dane.

[Southack]

"You don't understand the Reagan Amnesty either. It wasn't absolute, it also charged a fee [to the illegal alien]..."

Put up or shut up. What was the fee that you claim illegals had to pay under Reagan's Amnesty?

[muawiyah]

Interesting way to rewrite the history of Mexico. First, let's get this real clear ~ ALL the Eastern Seaboard English colonies had Sea to Sea landclaims going at the time of the American Revolution. These were ceded to the United States at the time of it's formation under the Articles of Confederation.

It's only because Spain was an ally that the US did not press it's Western land claims. However, after the Mexicans rose up against Spanish rule, all bets were off.

Texas' claim to half it's own territory was questionable in light of earlier claims to the same territory by Georgia and South Carolina anyway.

Claims that the USA simply "took" or "stole" Mexican land are too simple and do not account for all the competing claims. Even the argument that Mexico was the legitimate successor state to Spain (in the territory ascribed to Mexico) is suspect inasmuch as it would be as easy to argue that Florida was the legitimate successor state to Spain for the same territory.

Then there's the Northern border ~ the deportees from Acadia in Louisiana certainly are due some consideration, and possibly the return of New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Niagara district in Ontario, and other chunks of various other Canadian provinces.

And what about the Portuguese colony in Labrador and Newfoundland? Certainly they have primacy over other claimants.

I'm waiting patiently for mine before I'll consider yours, eh?!

[txdoda]

i>Spanish and French have been spoken in America longer than English.

And the Spanish & French were taxed to accommodate the new 'English speakers' ??

After all our illicit invasions Mexico and all the revolutions our government or citizens have promoted in Mexico including the communist revolution Mexico went thru,

Well obviously, the problems in mexico TODAY are all caused by the USA..../sarcasm

However, there is hope. Mexico has given the commies the bums rush out of office.

and from the news I read, looks like the grand 'ol PRI will be back in power again. (ya know, they always did sooo much for mexico.)

High taxes are the result of Democrat and Republican mismanagement.

Well you got one half right. However the sheeple are waking up & voting down tax increases/school bonds/illegal freebies.

If you are not native American your ancestors were illegal immigrants.

Thanks, but from my mother's side, I think I'll hang on to this Ellis Island paperwork, looks pretty legal to me.....& from my father's side, well they were mostly 'Okies', so you can probably figure that out.

[hchutch]

If George W. Bush were Bill Clinton, I could believe that. That said, he isn't like Bill Clinton at all.

He doesn't do stuff like this for political gain - he does it because he thinks it is the right thing to do. The potential gain for the GOP is mere gravy, but if it were not the right thing to do in the President's mind, he would NOT do it.

[JackelopeBreeder]

I suspect if they were Swedes or Anglo-Saxons they might hang out at the border to welcome them with a tune called "Dixie."

The preferred tunes here on the Arizona line alternate between La Cucaracha and Daguella. After all, 94% of them are from Mexico, Central and South America.

In the interests of diversity and political correctness I suppose we should find equally offensive tunes for the other 70 or so nationalities crossing here. I wouldn't want any of them to feel left out.

[Fatalis]

Put up or shut up. What was the fee that you claim illegals had to pay under Reagan's Amnesty?

I'll take "Put up."

Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986/SEC. 201. LEGALIZATION OF STATUS.

"(7) Application fees.--

"(A) Fee schedule.--The Attorney General shall provide for a schedule of fees to be charged for the filing of applications for adjustment under subsection (a) or (b)(1).

[Fatalis]

Here's your statement:

"Most of the people opposing the "illegal immigrants" from south of the border are very racist."

Nothing in #501 supports it.

[Fatalis]

I know they wouldn't be waiting with guns to shoot them. I suspect if they were Swedes or Anglo-Saxons they might hang out at the border to welcome them with a tune called "Dixie."

You sound like a bigot. Cheers.

[Southack]

"I'll take "Put up."

OK, so how much was the $ fee charged to illegals?

[txdoda]

In the interests of diversity and political correctness I suppose we should find equally offensive tunes for the other 70 or so nationalities crossing here. I wouldn't want any of them to feel left out.

LOL.....a little PC bedtime music to go along with the blankets we now supply ???

Hope you & yours had a Merry Christmas, & hoping you have a Happy (& safer) New Year.