OUR RE$PONSE IS 'INCREDIBLE' (Tsunami)

New York Post ^ | 12/30/2004 | Marsha Kranes and Ian Bishop

[spodefly]

I hate the UN.

Ditto.

[Godzilla]

Do a search on kitties or viking kitties

[Yardstick]

...global warmingcooling.

LOL -- doubleplus true!

[Graybeard58]

I also suggest you go read up on the Red Cross and do as sonserae suggests

Nah, she posted the original accusation that the Red Cross spends 80% on administration costs. It's her responsibility to back it up with a source - or your responsibility if you wish to assume it.

If and when I make an outlandish statement, I'll post links.

[Graybeard58]

going to treat as they do ALL other donations received: 80% to administration, 20% to the "cause."

If you are going to continue to make these accusations, I will continue to ask you to back it up. Until you do they are completely meaningless.

[jwalsh07]

I have sent money personally

Can we "embarass" you into sending more?

[cake_crumb]

"Cake_crumb I agree with your second paragraph wholeheartedly, and it is a very enlightened statement, but why are you personally offended that I think ALL wealthy countries (including my own) should give more?"

Because it's elitist and callous. People who can't afford it are giving whatever they can, even if it's their last $5, because they care, they want to help and they know that their $5, added to someone else's $5, added to tens, twenties, hundreds, thousands, can make a difference.

All you do with such off the cuff, callow statements is grind down those who can't afford it and discourage them from giving. Regardless of taxpayer donations pledged by "wealthy" Western countries in proportion to the amount of the GDP each country controls, the REAL $$$$ is going to come from hundreds of millions of small, private donors. Only an elitist would discount their heartfelt contributions out of hand, rather than trying to encourage people to continue donating via a little positive reinforcement like "we're doing a great job, together we're going to make a huge difference"

[cake_crumb]

You haven't posted anything to this thread to tag you as a troll We don't have a problem with people who aren't conservative here. Trolls are most often those who habitually pop in, make outrageous statements and accusation, then refuse to back their contentions up with fact.

By your posts, you seem to be a reasonable person. By your previous job, you're obviously caring. It's extremely hard these days to find an...err....avowed non-conservative who cares enough about people to participate in reasoned discourse in order to find out how they think. You could find a home here at FR.

[sonserae]

I just heard a radio program tonight by John and Ken on KFI here in Los Angeles. UNICEF has offices in all 158 countries so they are prepared and have trained people wherever there is a disaster. The representative talked in detail on their organization and what relief they supply. They seem like a reputable charity if you want to give to them as well as Salvation Army and World Vision.

You must note that even though the American Red Cross has a questionable reputation, the International Red Cross has an even more questionable reputation and they are the ones that deal with disasters outside of the US. Give your $ to a charity that will use your money more responsibly.

[Conservababe]

Well, when you think on it, Mr Wheatley...why should Americans give a flying fig what happened and donate any monies at all...from private or government charities?

Why are WE expected to give when it does not affect us?

[Graybeard58]

Here's the most up to date info I can find on the Red Cross from give.org an independant analyist of charities. It say 04% for fund raising and 04% for administrative costs plus a 10% increase in net assets.

http://www.give.org/reports/arc.asp

Scroll to the bottom of the page for the pie chart.

[Rahmulus]

Are you saying that this was a strategic move by a UN bureaucrat to raise more money? Sorry, the money would have come anyway. This person is a product of a socialist Norway, when he said that rich countries should raise taxes and send more relief money, that’s what he meant. UN’s are not that sophisticated.

[af_vet_1981]

I despise the UN for its hypocrisy. They did not lift a finger to stop the genocide in Rwanda.

[Conservababe]

UNICEF? Well, you just go right on ahead telling everyone to give to the organizations that allow the most skimming by politicians in the country affected. Where are the conservatives here who have informed themselves for years of these organizations. Geez

[jwalsh07]

You better get some of your pals to contribute as well. Charitable giving in the US runs at 2.3% of GDP, in the UK, under 1%.

Its that old time religion thing.

[Conservababe]

UN members are exempt from income taxes in most countries. If they are not and they pay, the UN reimburses them all monies due.

[Graybeard58]

Re #67:

You left out - Who saved all of Europe from the Nazis? Who lifted all of Western Europe from economic disaster after WW2?

Probably lots more but I needed to get that in there.

[cake_crumb]

UNICEF stands for United Nations International Children’s Emergency Fund