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N.Y. Muslim group held at border
NY Daily News ^
| 12/30/2004
| LESLIE CASIMIR
Posted on 12/30/2004 2:08:16 PM PST by Marine Inspector
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To: Marine Inspector
"Not one of the thousands of Muslims visitors entering through my port has ever whined. The only whiners we get are US Citizens."
When I'm visiting someone else's country, I don't know my rights, if any. As a visitor to their country, they don't have to let me in at all.
When I return, I know my rights AND my responsibilities - those agents derive their authority from ME, through my representatives.
If I and my fellow Citizens are not treated to the respect and simple courtesy we demand - you would definitely hear me "whining".
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posted on
12/30/2004 5:13:19 PM PST
by
RS
To: Marine Inspector
They turned out to be U.S. citizens.CBP knew they were US Citizens and still detained them and fingerprinted them and photographed them. It's not like they found out later and that is the problem.
It doesn't say that in this article.
To: Ramius
Are you then making a case that there should be no identification required at the border? Somebody says they're a US citizen and you'd just take their word for it? Absolutely not.
CBP has no authority to arbitrarily fingerprint and photograph US Citizens. As far as I know, no law enforcement agency does.
This was not about identifying who they were. That is done by checking names and DOBs in the computer and verifying documents.
This was about keeping tabs on them.
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posted on
12/30/2004 5:15:55 PM PST
by
Marine Inspector
(Customs & Border Protection Officer)
To: Marine Inspector
I commend the inspectors for putting these Muhammadeans through the wringer after their little Canadian jihad rally.
US-passport-holding muslims were involved in the islamic terror attacks on our African embassies and in WTC1. US-born muslims have since been found training with Al Qaeda. They're already inside the wire.
Passport status (not "citizenship" status, since IMHO, jihadists can never be real Americans) doesn't require us to commit suicide.
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posted on
12/30/2004 5:16:04 PM PST
by
dagnabbit
(Vincente Fox's opening line at Mexico-USA summit meeting: "Bring out the Gimp!")
To: RS
When I return, I know my rights AND my responsibilities - those agents derive their authority from ME, through my representatives. If I and my fellow Citizens are not treated to the respect and simple courtesy we demand - you would definitely hear me "whining". I agree.
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posted on
12/30/2004 5:17:31 PM PST
by
Marine Inspector
(Customs & Border Protection Officer)
To: No Surrender No Retreat
It's called free speach. Get used to it.
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posted on
12/30/2004 5:17:58 PM PST
by
Marine Inspector
(Customs & Border Protection Officer)
To: Marine Inspector
Yes. The US Constitution does not prohibit identity checks for supposed US citizens entering the USA.
Get over yourself. You are attempting to stir up controversy with the Islamacists. I have my fingerprints on my drivers' license, my passport, and my former military dependent ID, as well as a bank card and a university student ID.
You are nothing but an incendiary.
To: Marine Inspector
The sad thing is I probably trained you when you attended FLETC. Truthfully I was never impressed with INS, but the Border Patrol was second to none. NSNR
To: Marine Inspector
This was not about identifying who they were. That is done by checking names and DOBs in the computer and verifying documents. What documentation was checked? Some documents can be forged -- fingerprints can't.
From the information I've see so far, this is indeed about identifying who they are.
To: FreeReign
Read the last line and see post #75
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posted on
12/30/2004 5:21:03 PM PST
by
Marine Inspector
(Customs & Border Protection Officer)
To: Ginifer
I think he is a loose cannon, bent on self-destruct mode. Ha Ha.
To: No Surrender No Retreat
What he's trying to do is sound like he is educated and an intellectual on border security...based on his comments, he is neither. My grandmother always said "the smarter person gives in and moves on"...so he can bait me all he wants, but he's arguing with himself.
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posted on
12/30/2004 5:25:49 PM PST
by
Ginifer
To: Marine Inspector
I see a nice lawsuit coming.....
153
posted on
12/30/2004 5:25:53 PM PST
by
benice
To: antiunion person
154
posted on
12/30/2004 5:26:23 PM PST
by
Happy2BMe
("Islam fears democracy worse than anything-It castrates their stranglehold at the lowest level.")
To: Marine Inspector
Really, then learn how to spell speech not (speach). Did you have a 70 average when graduating from INS Immigration Inspectors Course? I hope you were one of the ones' I made puke during physical conditioning. I really enjoyed dogging you guy's out at FLETC.
To: Marine Inspector
It's called free speach.Ummm, actually it's called free "speech". spell check is your friend.
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posted on
12/30/2004 5:28:25 PM PST
by
CAluvdubya
(From the RED part of California)
To: Marine Inspector
What would you say if I told you these U.S. Citizens were forced to be fingerprinted and photographed before CBP let them go? I would say "Bravo!"
Just what do you think you are doing when you are supposed to be protecting our country ?
To: weenie; MeekOneGOP; devolve; PhilDragoo; Boazo; Grampa Dave; F15Eagle; Prime Choice; B4Ranch; ...
"You know that Muslims don't care about minor details like gender...If you show them a young boy goat and they say "cute"...you're probably looking at an imam."
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posted on
12/30/2004 5:32:03 PM PST
by
Happy2BMe
("Islam fears democracy worse than anything-It castrates their stranglehold at the lowest level.")
To: Marine Inspector
"It's just appalling," said Jean Tassi, 53. "If I didn't have on a head covering, I would have never been stopped."
and if your "muslim brethren" hadn't killed so many folks 9/11 your headcovering and the fact you are a muslim would probably not have raised the red flag like it does now.
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posted on
12/30/2004 5:32:35 PM PST
by
sawmill trash
(You declare jihad ... we declare DEGUELLO !)
To: No Surrender No Retreat
The sad thing is I probably trained you when you attended FLETC. I hope not, the instructors there were idiots.
I've never been impressed with the INS either. I joined because I despise illegal immigration and I was determined to do something about it after I left the Marine Corps. DHS has improved things a bit, but unfortunately it took 3,000 dead Americans to wake up Washington and the waking up has been far to slow, IMO.
I was originally hired by the BP, but a Inspector position came open and thinking that would be the better route to becoming a CI, I took the II job. Big mistake. As it turned out, after working with some of the INS CI's, I'm glade I never went in that direction. By then I was too old to get back into the BP.
God forbid anyone working for the Government would dare speak out against it. I guess I should be a good civil servant and keep quite, tow the line and praise Bush every chance I get.
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posted on
12/30/2004 5:34:21 PM PST
by
Marine Inspector
(Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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