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Are We Stingy? Yes
NYT ^ | 30 December 2004 | Who Really Cares?

Posted on 12/30/2004 5:07:39 AM PST by .cnI redruM

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To: Howlin
I guess that's what people who never pick a winner do.

Yeah, well I guess I'm just one of those stodgy old foolish conservatives who can't learn to cast aside time-honored values and principles depending on which way the wind is currently blowing.

Please forgive me.

201 posted on 12/30/2004 10:09:04 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
Yeah, well I guess I'm just one of those stodgy old foolish conservatives who can't learn to cast aside time-honored values and principles depending on which way the wind is currently blowing.

Well, it's good to know what you think of the rest of us who have "compromised" (your word) ourselves, Willie.

202 posted on 12/30/2004 10:15:56 AM PST by Howlin
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To: devolve
bump!

203 posted on 12/30/2004 10:17:42 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: .cnI redruM

Perhaps the NYT should contribute a substantial portion of their 2004 profits to the aid effort and put their money where theie Pie-hole is.

IMHO.

Beyond that, they can STFU.


204 posted on 12/30/2004 10:20:46 AM PST by roaddog727 (The marginal propensity to save is 1 minus the marginal propensity to consume.)
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To: .cnI redruM

The rest of the world was born with a handful of "Gimme" and a mouth full of "not enough".


205 posted on 12/30/2004 10:23:20 AM PST by Zhangliqun (What are intellectuals for but to complexify the obvious?)
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To: Zhangliqun

Good way to put it. That was genuinely funny.


206 posted on 12/30/2004 10:25:04 AM PST by .cnI redruM (This country's heart will be giving in any disaster regardless of the recipient's response.)
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To: roaddog727

I would refer them to post 191. They need to drink a cold one of the STFU Stout.


207 posted on 12/30/2004 10:26:25 AM PST by .cnI redruM (This country's heart will be giving in any disaster regardless of the recipient's response.)
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To: Howlin
it's good to know what you think of the rest of us who have "compromised" (your word) ourselves,

I was going to use the word "compromise", but for some reason, it didn't seem quite right. It's kinda "soft", warm & fuzzy, you know what I mean? I'm looking for something a little harsher and more judgemental, but can't come up with it. I guess I need another cup of coffee, it'll come to me eventually!

208 posted on 12/30/2004 10:29:52 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: .cnI redruM

This kind of stuff is counter-productive in that it just makes me want to sit on my wallet.


209 posted on 12/30/2004 10:30:27 AM PST by Musket
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To: .cnI redruM

"I would refer them to post 191. They need to drink a cold one of the STFU Stout."

Perhaps a kegger of post 191.........


210 posted on 12/30/2004 10:30:41 AM PST by roaddog727 (The marginal propensity to save is 1 minus the marginal propensity to consume.)
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To: Musket

Aid politics can be very nasty. They often get used as an excuse to insult someone as stingy. People can really display their worst when they should be at their level best.


211 posted on 12/30/2004 10:31:55 AM PST by .cnI redruM (This country's heart will be giving in any disaster regardless of the recipient's response.)
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To: demlosers
Only until the low dollar rises again, the US will again take the top spot. :)

Japan 7bn
US 6.9bn
UK 5.6bn
France 5.4bn
Germany 4.5bn

Source: CIA worldfactbook

Of course the Japanese economy is smaller than ours... and we have more people and higher GDP per head. Lets give credit where credit is due.

2002 data:

USA:
Population (m) 286.9
GDP (US$ bn; market exchange rate) 10,446(b)

Japan:
Population (m) 127.1
GDP (US$ bn; market exchange rate) 3,973.3(b)

and look at GDP per head ($ at PPP) US/JAPAN
2000: 34,770/25,948
2001: 35,438/26,639
2002: 36,432/26,944
2003: 37,831/28,000

(All number from Economist country briefings)

Now sure we have other things that probably isn't counted in that aid number... like military expenditures used in policing the globe. But I welcome a little friendly competition in this area, it certainly couldn't hurt us to increase our giving a little to keep up. Of course I think this is all public aid? So I'm not sure what happens when you include private aid. I think that is where we should increase our donations. I couldn't really tell from the CIA footnote. Any takers on explaining this? Purely a governmental aid number or?

This entry refers to net official development assistance (ODA) from Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) nations to developing countries and multilateral organizations. ODA is defined as financial assistance that is concessional in character, has the main objective to promote economic development and welfare of the less developed countries (LDCs), and contains a grant element of at least 25%. The entry does not cover other official flows (OOF) or private flows. -- "Economic aid - donor", CIA World fact book 2002.

-paridel

212 posted on 12/30/2004 10:59:08 AM PST by Paridel
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To: .cnI redruM
I would refer them to post 191. They need to drink a cold one of the STFU Stout.

They need the whole keg, regardless of the born-on date.

213 posted on 12/30/2004 12:40:45 PM PST by Zhangliqun (What are intellectuals for but to complexify the obvious?)
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To: .cnI redruM

phuket!


214 posted on 12/30/2004 7:57:31 PM PST by BurbankKarl (LI)
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