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To: GretchenM; 2Jedismom; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; snugs; rintense; TruthNtegrity; NordP; ...
Good Afternoon!

This is probably a bad time to say this but I have a problem, something that has been knawing at me for nearly two months (Well, longer than that, but this happened just a couple of weeks after the election)

I was hoping there was someone here who can help me sort this out.

You all know how much I support the President, I will always do so!:o)

And you know I am a committed Christian My TRUE HERO is JESUS CHRIST.

One day in November just a couple of weeks after that spectacular win on Nov. 2 by our adorable President I was in the laundry room of my building I live in. I was already annoyed at some of the folks who also live there with thier attitude about me (worst mistake I made was letting them know who I planned to vote for!) Now certian ones hardly give me the time of the day.

I'm not saying everybody is doing this (there are some adults living here) At work there's no problem with it. my family doesn't treat me like a monster either (even if they were Kerry folks) They at least respect my views and my beliefs.

But when I was in that laundry room, there was also this older woman (87) that I got to know when I moved there. now she is a devoute Catholic Christian and she is very ill (she believes she's dying).

She neither likes nor trusts President Bush and she can't understand why I do. I try to explain but she won't hear what ever I have to say because she believes also that I've been "Brainwashed" and I shouldn't believe even the pictures or the speeches here or else were.

She basically accused me of putting the President above God, that's not the truth and you know it. (That's what I said to her) Now I was always taught to respect and honor older people so I didn't argue much with her. but the things she said to me really hurt and I can't seem to put them out of my mind and go on with being the good Christian American Republican Conservative Republican Bush supporter that I wan't to be without feeling I'm doing something wrong. Can anyone help me sort this all out?

I know this ain't a good time for this but I just couldn't let the new year start with this plagueing my mind anymore.

I wan't the shout out to her

I AM A CHRISTIAN!!!!!


224 posted on 12/30/2004 9:37:30 AM PST by Pippin (IPraying for the victims of the Tsunami)
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To: Pippin

Well, for one thing "hate" is not is christian virtue. Mabe in some nice way you can tell her that? If she says you should not believe anything you read or see about him, then there is really nothing you can do. Mabe she just distrusts politicians in general? Do you know that much about her? If she is a Kerry person you could tell her about who supports him, like Planned Parenthood, The gay rights organizations, seperation of church and state people, etc.... and that you cannot link yourself with those people or with politicians who support such organizations.


227 posted on 12/30/2004 10:17:49 AM PST by Lemondropkid31 (Vote for the man who has bible-based values. Vote Bush.)
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To: Pippin

Q. Does not the Scripture tell us not to judge one another?

A. Yes.

Q. Did this woman judge the motive of your heart?

A. Yes.

Q. Is she capable of knowing the motive of your heart in this?

A. Not in her current state.

Q. Was she right or wrong in her judgment?

A. Wrong.

Q. Why believe someone who is disobeying the Scripture?

Warfare tools: 1) Refuse to dwell on it; brush it off when the memory of her incorrect assessment comes back; state the truth to yourself out loud; laugh about it. It'll go away as you keep resisting it. 2) Meditate on Romans 14:4 "Who are you [older woman] to judge the servant [Pippin] of another [the Lord God]? To his own master he stands or falls; and stand he will, for the Lord is able to make him stand."

Remind yourself this elderly woman has gotten out of balance with her politics and her theology and now she's tried to inflict her assumptions on you. Refuse it. You and the Lord God know what's in your heart. You know the truth.


229 posted on 12/30/2004 12:50:50 PM PST by GretchenM (Was Santa Claus' inventor an entitlement-driven liberal?)
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To: Pippin
You say in a later post that she may not even be a Kerry or Democrat supporter just anti Bush.

I am afraid there are many people both in your country and this side of the pond that are just anti bush and whatever you say to them they will not change this position.

In my experience it all revolves around oil and anything that Bush/Cheney do is looked at how does that impact the oil industry. People such as your old lady who are accusing Bush supporters of being brain washed and or naive are in fact themselves brain washed by the MSM in believing this theory. IMHO it goes way back to the first Gulf War under GHWB where of course incidentally Cheney was Defence Secretary and there starts the conspiracy theories. IMHO I suspect this is where your old lady is coming from.

Unfortunately I see no point in trying to argue or reason with her IMHO you need to see who is feeding her this line of argument and what their agenda is. Unfortunately if it is the MSM there is little you can do about it however if it is a member of her family or friend/acquaintance maybe you can show her what their agenda is in this view point.

At the end of the day I think all you can do is remember what Gretchen has said that it not for us to judge but God alone is the judge and will decide who are the true believers are; the sheep and who are in fact who appear to be but are not; the goats. God alone will separate the sheep and goats not us.

I am afraid I cannot be of more help to you my little hobbit but just keep the faith and pray.
237 posted on 12/30/2004 1:51:03 PM PST by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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