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Vioxx. Celebrex. Now Aleve. What's a Patient to Think?
NY Times ^ | December 28, 2004 | ANAHAD O'CONNOR

Posted on 12/29/2004 12:38:09 PM PST by neverdem

When Audrey Eisen flicked her computer on last Monday night and read the news that the painkiller Aleve had been linked to heart attacks, she winced in disbelief.

Ms. Eisen, 64, a retired professor who lives in New York, had just returned from her drugstore with a package of Aleve. Her pharmacist allowed her to return it the next morning, no questions asked.

It was the third painkiller in four months that Ms. Eisen, who has degenerative spine and disk disease, had quit abruptly because of studies linking the drugs to heart attacks. She flushed her Vioxx down the toilet in September, after it was withdrawn from the market, and switched to Celebrex. But when problems surfaced with Celebrex this month, she had to stop that, too.

"I was extremely angry," said Ms. Eisen, whose father, two uncles, and grandparents died of heart disease. "Now I just don't trust the Food and Drug Administration anymore. I told a friend of mine, who had also been on Celebrex, that I was sure there'd be some other surprise in a few days."

Many Americans who have relied for pain relief on pills believed to be safe say their faith has been eroded in the system intended to protect them. Longtime users of Celebrex and similar drugs are swearing off them, even though the details of the studies that led to the recent warnings are still under wraps, and other studies have found no added dangers.

Some doctors say they are concerned their patients may be overreacting, but psychologists who study how people evaluate risks say the widespread anxiety, raft of lawsuits and feelings of broken trust are neither surprising nor, necessarily, unwarranted.

"Based on what we know so far, it's understandable that people are worried that any risk that emerges with these drugs is probably the tip of the iceberg," said Dr. George Loewenstein, a professor of economics and psychology at Carnegie Mellon University.

"They hear that there was one study that didn't find an increase in heart attacks, but then they think, 'O.K., but how many studies have been suppressed?' " Dr. Loewenstein said. "There's a danger of a cataclysmic reduction or collapse of trust in physicians and in the government, and what we're seeing now could be a leading indicator of that."

Studies show that most people, learning of a drug's potentially deadly side effects or some other potential hazard, will accept a certain amount of danger if they feel they have unfiltered information and can properly weigh the risks. But in the last few months, the bad news trickling out of drug companies and from federal health officials has been murky and confusing, psychologists say.

"It's not like there's good information and people don't understand it," said Dr. Baruch Fischhoff, a professor of decision sciences at Carnegie Mellon. "There's lousy information and people are frustrated and acting appropriately."

Vioxx was pulled from the shelves by Merck in September when a large clinical trial linked it to heart attacks. On Thursday, responding to evidence that Celebrex and Bextra may pose the same risks, the F.D.A. recommended that physicians limit their use of the drugs. But the agency has come under criticism that it first learned Vioxx was unsafe several years ago, and the news on Thursday prompted consumer groups to say the agency was once again siding with drug companies by not acting more forcefully.

In the meantime, millions of people on Celebrex are forced to make sense of conflicting data on the drug's safety. One study has linked it to heart problems at high doses; two others, including one last week, showed no such risks. And because the studies were intended to look at the drug's effectiveness in preventing colon polyps or warding off Alzheimer's, experts say it is unclear whether the researchers controlled for underlying risks of heart disease like weight, age and smoking. The National Institutes of Health has not yet released that information.

It also remains unclear whether Celebrex succeeded in helping prevent the recurrence of polyps in the study that was halted: the Merck study of Vioxx that led to the drug's withdrawal found that the medication had an effect in reducing polyps.

"It is unfortunate that physicians and patients have limited data, some of it in direct conflict with existing conclusions, causing anxiety that at this time cannot be definitively confirmed nor refuted," Dr. Elizabeth Tindall, president of the American College of Rheumatology, said in a statement last week.

Experts say that patients debating whether to continue their pain medications should meet with their doctors to determine their risk of heart disease. They can also calculate their long-term risk at a Web site set up by the health institutes, hin.nhlbi.nih.gov/atpiii/calculator.asp?usertype=pub.

Meanwhile, Dr. Fischhoff said, the results from the Celebrex trials will not be helpful to most people until they are combined and analyzed, indicating the drug's overall risk. That information, he said, is particularly crucial for people who feel strongly that Celebrex works for them, but are worried about its potential cardiovascular dangers.

"If you look at one study, you're more likely to get a statistically significant effect than if you pool the results," he said. "If I'm somebody who's in dire pain, and this is the only thing that works for me, I need the overall effect size. When I have that, then I might be able to say, 'O.K., given the improvement in my quality of life, I'm willing to take that 1 in 100 chance of death.' "

Instead, patients are struggling to piece together information. What perhaps has most outraged people is a collective sense that facts are being concealed, making people feel that they are unwittingly playing with danger.

Dr. George Gray, the executive director of the Harvard Center for Risk Analysis, pointed to the furor that erupted two months ago when federal health officials announced a shortage of flu vaccine and urged restrictions on who should be immunized. Almost immediately, people began flooding their local health clinics - some who had never bothered to get vaccinated before - clamoring for shots.

"Everybody was going bonkers," Dr. Gray said.

But now that there is plenty of vaccine, no one is getting immunized, he said. The demand has dwindled so much that a federal advisory committee recommended a little over a week ago that the restraints on immunizations should be eased, fearing that tens of thousands of doses of vaccine will go to waste.

"When it means that someone else is controlling whether or not I may be in danger, whether it's not letting me have the flu shot or not telling me about the potential risks of these medications, then people will react in ways that can seem out of proportion to the actual risk," Dr. Gray said.

People will also react more acutely if they feel they were put in danger by the very person or thing that was supposed to protect them.

So the fact that the warnings involved a drug that people took each morning thinking it would make them healthier is particularly troubling to the public, some experts say, as is the fact that health officials who were supposed to look out for them may have instead neglected to alert them about serious side effects.

"It's like if someone is assaulted by a security guard, or if an air bag malfunctions and endangers them," said Cass R. Sunstein, a professor at the University of Chicago Law School and the author of "Risk and Reason."

"The degree of alarm and outrage is because something that's supposed to make people safe is really putting them at risk," Mr. Sunstein said.

The recent news may have prompted millions of people to throw away their pills in anger. But the past suggests that many will eventually return to them, deciding that their lives are unbearable without them or that their other options are far worse.

In 2002, for example, after a large study found that hormone replacement therapy could increase the risk of heart attacks, stroke and breast cancer, menopausal women were strongly urged to quit their hormone regimens. Millions did. But over time, experts say, many women found the hot flashes, insomnia and night sweats excruciating, and returned to hormone therapy.

"There's usually a very big initial reaction, and then people come back," Dr. Loewenstein said. "Once they get used to side effects, people tend to become very complacent."

Mignon Kaplan, a ballet teacher who lives in New York, is among those who decided that returning to a cox-2 inhibitor was worth the risks. Mrs. Kaplan, who used Celebrex to treat her arthritis for four years, said she stopped taking the drug after Vioxx was pulled from the market.

In October, when her arthritis pain grew overwhelming, she went back on Celebrex, but then stopped again when it was tied to heart problems. Her doctor wrote her a prescription for Voltaren, an older arthritis drug that scared her back to Celebrex.

"It came with pages and pages of side effects," she said. "They looked even worse than Celebrex's. It said contact your doctor if you experience blood in your vomit, bloody or black stool, dizziness, yellowing of the skin. I thought, I don't want these things. I've been taking Celebrex for a long time and it's agreed with me, so I called my doctor and said put me back on Celebrex."

Mrs. Kaplan's physician, Dr. Fred Pescatore, an internist in Manhattan, said about 70 percent of his patients had stopped taking Celebrex and other cox-2 inhibitors since September. He said he pleaded with Mrs. Kaplan to do the same. She refused, agreeing only to switch to a lower dose.

"She figured that the devil she knows is better than the devil she doesn't know," he said.


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KEYWORDS: aleve; celebrex; fda; health; painmanagement; vioxx
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Oops-- Unfortunately many Americans do not realize (with their instant-gratification minds) that there is virtue in suffering.
21 posted on 12/29/2004 12:56:44 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Little Ray

Aleve works well, but be on alert for bleeding ulcers. I can't take it for that reason.


22 posted on 12/29/2004 12:57:37 PM PST by knittnmom
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To: neverdem
From what I've seen, the recent study that prompted the furor regarding COX-2 inhibitors showed the following:

Placebo Group: .75 cardiovascular adverse events per 100 patient years
NSAID Group: 1.49 cardiovascular adverse events per 100 patient years

No matter how you cut it, those incidence rates are both extremely low. I think it's offensive that media-induced hysteria will result in many patients living in terrible pain for years because they cannot or will not take this medication.

23 posted on 12/29/2004 12:57:55 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Salvation

Don't confuse self-flagellation, in which there is no virtue, with remaining faithful in the midst of suffering. If relief is readily available, it is hardly virtuous to forego it just so you can suffer.


24 posted on 12/29/2004 1:02:56 PM PST by mcg1969
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To: Salvation
Unfortunately many Americans do not realize (with their instant-gratification minds) that their is virtue in suffering.

Do you live with rheumatoid arthritis? I know people who do, and without the medication they'd live in crippling pain that would have them wheelchair-bound in a matter of a few years. These meds allow them to live relatively productive lives (not pain-free, but productive).

Where I come from, choosing crippling pain and joint problems when a remedy is readily-available isn't virtuous, but rather incredibly stupid.

25 posted on 12/29/2004 1:02:58 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: IonImplantGuru
See my #12. I know my Mom wishes he'd take some sort of medicine.

He's damned hard to get along with when he is hurting.

26 posted on 12/29/2004 1:03:18 PM PST by Constitution Day (Free presidio9!)
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To: neverdem

Don't buy the meds the drugs companies push on us. Look for alternatives. You get old and the body does not work the way it once did, thats just the way things are. That being said, if I were older and had chronic pain I don't think I'd stop the Vioxx or whatever, just moderate it.


27 posted on 12/29/2004 1:04:40 PM PST by Pondman88
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To: El Gato; JudyB1938; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Robert A. Cook, PE; lepton; LadyDoc; jb6; tiamat; PGalt; ..

FReepmail me if you want on or off my health and science ping list.

Anyone taking aspirin to protect against coronary artery (heart) disease as well as any non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug(NSAID), including Celebrex or Bextra, for any reason, should take the aspirin, preferably with food, at least one hour before that other drug.


28 posted on 12/29/2004 1:07:22 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: NittanyLion

I have arthritic spurs in my hip. I know what pain is.


29 posted on 12/29/2004 1:08:10 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: mcg1969

I use a magnetic wrap on my hip at night and am able to deal with my pain with only aspirin and/or ibueprofen. I also lost 60 pounds.

There are alternatives.


30 posted on 12/29/2004 1:11:07 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NittanyLion

"No matter how you cut it, those incidence rates are both extremely low. I think it's offensive that media-induced hysteria will result in many patients living in terrible pain for years because they cannot or will not take this medication."


YEP!


31 posted on 12/29/2004 1:13:12 PM PST by MeanWestTexan
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To: neverdem
Vioxx. Celebrex. Now Aleve. What's a Patient to Think?

Why bother thinking.

New Thinkabrexx is coming on the market!

 

 

 

 

in it's generic form, it's call cogitatix.

32 posted on 12/29/2004 1:13:29 PM PST by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: NittanyLion
Before my back surgery, I took Celebrex. Fortunately the surgery was very successful. But I can tell you, that if I needed to take Agent Orange or Gasoline to stunt the pain, I would have. Life is too sure to spend it in pain.

My father-in-law who is in tremendous pain, daily for years d/t spinal stenosis refuses to take Celebrex because he is afraid of the side effects. Well, when you are 80 years old, you have to figure every day that you have left can be comfortable or it can be hell. You pick.

I guess the point is, that patients should be provided with all of the available info and then be allowed to make their own choices.
33 posted on 12/29/2004 1:14:45 PM PST by HonestConservative (Bless our Servicemen!)
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To: 1Old Pro

Unfortunately, some pain cannot be stunted by 2 advil and a glass of wine.


34 posted on 12/29/2004 1:15:59 PM PST by HonestConservative (Bless our Servicemen!)
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To: MeanWestTexan; neverdem
IN ALL PROBABILITY, this is JUNK SCIENCE

BINGO! The same with calcium channel blockers (BP meds such as Cardizem, Norvasc, Verapamil, etc.). There was a recent study which showed a higher risk of heart death in women taking these meds.  Calcium channel blockers were targeted several years ago regarding some side effect (can't remember exactly), but this was put to rest, up until now.

35 posted on 12/29/2004 1:16:47 PM PST by Born Conservative (Entertainment is a thing of the past, today we've got television - Archie Bunker)
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To: Salvation
I have arthritic spurs in my hip. I know what pain is.

Out of curiousity, has your arthritis disabled you? If so, why do you choose not to take medication that could help you lead a more productive life?

As someone close to a person with RA, I find nothing virtuous in seeing that person in horrible pain, in a wheelchair, because they refused to take medication.

36 posted on 12/29/2004 1:18:38 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: All

What the heck......WHY IS THE ALEVE NEWS BEING SUPPRESSED????

I have heard ***nothing*** about this on the news until this.

Not that I can take it....I am allergic to Aleve and its sister (unfortunately) aspirin. But, this is getting ridiculous.


37 posted on 12/29/2004 1:20:21 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("War is an ugly thing, but...the decayed feeling...which thinks nothing worth war, is worse." -Mill)
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To: NittanyLion

I've always wondered about people who would rather suffer and complain, then do something about it, balancing risk vs. benefit.

They must be getting something out of the pain, a psych. or emotional rebate) that a rational person wouldn't be interested in.

Do I want to live to be 90 but in pain? I think not.


38 posted on 12/29/2004 1:21:07 PM PST by HonestConservative (Bless our Servicemen!)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Perfect.


39 posted on 12/29/2004 1:23:31 PM PST by HonestConservative (Bless our Servicemen!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The people who work at the FDA need to be shot.

They take 20 years to approve drugs and then miss this crap, which would seem to me to be a pretty serious side effect.


40 posted on 12/29/2004 1:24:28 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("War is an ugly thing, but...the decayed feeling...which thinks nothing worth war, is worse." -Mill)
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