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Bush Immigration Plan Would Allegedly 'Destroy the Middle Class'
www.townhall.com ^ | 29 December 2004 | Jeff Johnson

Posted on 12/29/2004 6:21:51 AM PST by Ginifer

(CNSNews.com) - President Bush is moving forward with his plans to create a "Temporary Worker Program" that would allow millions of illegal aliens to remain and work in the U.S. for a minimum of three years with no fear of deportation or other punishment. Advocates of tougher immigration policies believe the president is ignoring the costs and potential dangers posed by illegal immigration.

In his final, scheduled, formal press conference of the year, the president criticized current U.S. immigration policy.

"The system we have today is not a compassionate system. It's not working," Bush said Dec. 20. "And, as a result, the country is less secure than it could be with a rational system."

Any proposed changes to immigration policy must take into account what the president calls "reality.""

\ldblquote There are some jobs in America that Americans won't do and others are willing to do," Bush said. "We ought to have a system that recognizes people are coming here to do jobs that Americans will not do. And there ought to be a legal way for them to do so."

According to a White House fact sheet entitled, "Fair and Secure Immigration Reform," the president's "Temporary Worker Program" would allow new immigrants to the U.S. and those currently here illegally to accept employment "when no American worker is available and willing to take a job.""

Ira Mehlman, media director for the Federation for American Immigration Reform, told the Cybercast News Service that Bush's proposal is, "a great plan if your objective is to destroy the middle class in the United States.

"If you are going to offer employers the opportunity to bring in unlimited numbers of guest workers then there is never going to be any incentive to increase wages in this country [or] to improve working conditions," Mehlman said. "Upward mobility will become a thing of the past if such a plan is enacted."

Bush says program would not provide 'automatic citizenship'

The program would last three years, but would be renewable. Bush insists he is not proposing amnesty, or an easier road to citizenship, for illegal aliens.

"Now, one of the important aspects of my vision is that this is not automatic citizenship. The American people must understand that," the president stressed. "If somebody who is here working wants to be a citizen, they can get in line like those who have been here legally and have been working to become a citizen in a legal manner."

Mehlman disagreed.

"Even he would have to recognize that a program that allows millions of people, who have broken the law, to gain legal status in this country is an amnesty," Mehlman insisted. "Even though he swears it's not an amnesty program, that's exactly what it is; it is rewarding people who have broken the law.""

Supporters of tougher immigration laws also doubt, according to Mehlman, that there will be anything temporary about the "Temporary Worker Program."

"He's talking about a three-year temporary worker visa, renewable for three more," Mehlman observed. "And at the end of the six years, these people will, of course, all say, 'Thank you very much. We really appreciate the opportunity to work here and now we're going home.' Yeah, right."

The Bush proposal also includes provisions to allow participants to cross back and forth from their country of origin to maintain family ties. President Bush said U.S. Border Patrol agents need to focus on more important duties.

"[W]e want our border patrol agents chasing crooks and thieves and drug runners and terrorists, not good-hearted people who are coming here to work," Bush argued.

'Preposterous' plan fails to address security concerns

Mehlman complained that recommendations by the 9/11 Commission to tighten immigration policy were removed from the legislation passed by Congress due to pressure from those lobbying to protect illegal aliens.

"Special interest politics and greed seem to even trump homeland security," Mehlman concluded, "despite the fact that we've seen what the potential consequences are from not enforcing immigration laws."

Mehlman believes security must be the primary concern in immigration policy and that it is lacking in the proposal to allow for millions of "temporary workers."

"The idea that they are going to do thorough, comprehensive background checks on all these people to make sure that we're not letting in criminals or potential terrorists is preposterous," Mehlman said. "They couldn't even do a decent background check on their own nominee for Homeland Security secretary."

Former New York City Police Commissioner Bernard Kerrick withdrew his nomination for that post after allegations surfaced that he had ties to companies that have business dealings with the Department of Homeland Security and that he had employed an illegal immigrant as a nanny and did not pay his portion of her payroll taxes.

The president also argued that his plan would "take the pressure off of employers." Mehlman believes that is a mistake, as well.

"What we have to do is create disincentives against illegal immigration," Mehlman said. "Right now, we're creating incentives. We don't enforce the laws against employers."

Mehlman acknowledged that federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents cannot arrest every illegal alien or catch every employer who knowingly hires them. He believes effective immigration law enforcement means applying "leverage" to selected companies.

"You go after some of the employers that have been hiring illegal immigrants with impunity, even though it's against the law. You fine them sufficiently to send a message, the same way that the highway patrol enforces the speed limit on the freeway when they want to," Mehlman said. "They don't stop every single speeder. But, if you're driving along at 80 miles an hour and you see somebody else being pulled over, you slow down."

Such an enforcement strategy would have a ripple effect, according to Mehlman.

"If you go after enough employers to give the rest of them the idea that we're serious about enforcing the law, they will then refrain from hiring illegal immigrants," Mehlman said. "The word gets back, 'Don't come to the United States illegally because nobody's going to take a chance on hiring you.'"

Mehlman believes such a policy would have a similar effect on illegal aliens currently living and working in the U.S.

"Many who are already here [illegally] would leave and go home," Mehlman continued. "The objective is to encourage more people who are here illegally to go home. If you cannot get access to a job, if you can't get access to anything but emergency social benefits, there's no incentive to remain here."

FAIR disputes economic argument for illegal immigration

Mehlman also dismissed the common argument that reducing the available pool of illegal immigrant labor would drive up food prices.

"The labor cost in agriculture is about 10 percent. So, a dollar's worth of produce today would cost you about $1.10 tomorrow if they doubled everybody's wages," Mehlman said.

What little savings consumers reap from lower labor costs are multiplied in other areas, Mehlman argued.

"Maybe you do save a few pennies here and there because there are low-wage illegal immigrant workers doing jobs in this country that Americans would demand a higher wage for," Mehlman explained, "but in return you are providing education for the children of these illegal immigrants, you're providing the health care because these employers are not providing a Blue Cross/Blue Shield (health insurance) program for them. All sorts of social costs are being added on."

But President Bush described his proposal as a more \ldblquote compassionate way to treat people who come to our country." Mehlman wondered about the president's compassion for unemployed and underemployed U.S. citizens.

"What we're wrestling with here is the impact that it has on this country, the impact that it has on people struggling to make a living and make a decent life for themselves and their families, the impact on schools and social services," Mehlman said. "The president didn't tell us who's going to pay to educate all the kids of these 'guest workers' he wants to bring here. Who's going to pay for all the health care needs that they're going to have when they get here?"


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To: hchutch
Until America's attitude in those areas adjust

For someone so quick to squeal racism ---- you are certainly quick to bash Americans. Look at who is doing the most dying in Iraq.... Americans --- giving up their lives for the freedom of people in a foreign country. You don't see Mexico's army over there doing a damn thing. Americans --- not good enough for jobs --- just lazy sloths --- but they can be killed in foreign lands.

461 posted on 12/29/2004 5:43:04 PM PST by FITZ
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To: bayourod
And who is going to do your summer job when you return to school?

And who will do the temporary guest worker's job when they return to Mexico in 3 years? .... or are you of the belief Bush is just lying about them going back in 3 years?

462 posted on 12/29/2004 5:45:35 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Yaelle
It has been proven that with cheap (basically slave) labor, one takes away the motivation for ingenuity.

And that is exactly one of the big problems with Mexico itself. They didn't need to import tractors --- they had plenty of peasants with machetes and hoes and shovels. They had cheap labor galour --- they felt no need to invent or even to bring in the inventions of countries like the USA.

Now --- in the country where corn and beans were developed, the farmer cannot come close to competing with the American farmer because they still lack technology and the cheap labor does them no good at all --- now Mexico imports it's corn and beans and the farms have gone bankrupt.

463 posted on 12/29/2004 5:49:40 PM PST by FITZ
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To: FITZ
Americans --- not good enough for jobs --- just lazy sloths --- but they can be killed in foreign lands

Yeah, they won't pick lettuce or nail roofs together but they'll be walking targets for suicide bombers. Doesn't compute.

464 posted on 12/29/2004 5:50:10 PM PST by riri
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To: bayourod; sinkspur; Cultural Jihad; Fatalis
For the record, what do you consider the main points of immigration to be?

1. National Sovereignty - a nation is not or will not continue to be a nation if it cannot reasonable control its borders.

2. Security - if our government does not control who comes in and out of our country are we secure? Example - can any politician offer any reasonable assurance that what happened at the school in Chechnya with the terrorists will not happen here?

3. Overcrowding. This isn't 1900 anymore. I live in the DC area where almost a third of the population is foreign born. In spite of numerous new road systems (even a private toll road) the commutes continue to get worse and worse.

Recently I read in the USA today where the wait in traffic is up almost 200% nationwide. It is clear that the numbers added are by legal and illegal immigration. Domestic population growth is near zero. Standards of living may be rising, but quality of life is declining.

4.Crime. Almost one third of our federal prisoners are foreigners. Our government is simply not protecting it citizens. The crime rate by foreigners relative to their numbers is inexcusable. There should be a better screening process as to who is allow to enter and stay, but the government doesn't even know who or how many are entering.

Expense. I believe the Economist magazine had an article that stated the value for someone to just set foot in the US was almost $400,000. By just arriving here and taping into the infrastructure (roads, sewage, sanitation, schools, parks, hospitals) and welfare system, someone who was in penury in their former country has attained wealth. Take the school system for one.

There is almost no native population growth, therefore most of the new schools build are to support the children of new arrivals. Think of the expense of acquiring the land, building the school, furnishing the school, supplying student materials, staffing the school, and providing buses for transportation. These are huge costs thrust on the taxpayers.

There are other points, but I will end with loyalty. I am skeptical of the loyalty of many of the new arrivals. Why? Look at what happens to our national soccer team when they play a team from Central America - the Central American team is not just cheered by the crowd (that would be reasonable), our team is booed and has trash thrown at them. If someone does not wonder how loyal many of these people really are, they are probably lacking an inquisitive mind.

My daughter told me about a girl with an Indian (India) background who is American and attends her school. First of all, the girl wouldn't say the Pledge of Allegiance. Second, she mentioned that her aunt was in town. When asked, "Why?" She replied that ALL of her relatives come to the US when they are expecting a child.

Many citizens' appreciation for our country is lacking. But how could those allowed to be citizens behave in that manner? US citizenship used to be a cherish possession for the freedom it represents.

I believe the US is looked at by too many people of the world today as a place that can be taken advantage of. They are probably right, but I intend to do my part to see that change. Our government should be concerned with the people that are its citizens first. When do you think the flood should be stopped 400 million, 500 million, a billion? 300 million is probably enough.
465 posted on 12/29/2004 5:55:17 PM PST by HighFlier
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To: bayourod
my house for a large subdivision where the homes in one section will start at Three and 1/2 Million dollars.

That makes no sense. The house my father bought in the 50's for $14,000 --- all American labor, now sells for over $120,000 --- same exact house, same wood, same lot of land. The labor was paid off long ago, in fact most of the laborers are probaby dead --- yet the price of the house just keeps going up.

466 posted on 12/29/2004 5:55:41 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Poohbah
We're running out of land because government insists on making much of it unavailable for use.

And what do you think the government of Mexico is doing? Many of the millions of illegals now in the USA were substinence farmers back in their homeland not long ago. Today less land in Mexico is being irrigated --- the campesinos are being run off their lands, the oligarchy has decided they must go.

467 posted on 12/29/2004 5:58:45 PM PST by FITZ
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To: FITZ

It would take a fool, an idiot, or both to believe "guest workers" would return to their home country after three years.


468 posted on 12/29/2004 6:04:45 PM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: henderson field
No, the idea is to create a place where the individual is sovereign: "a country without a king, a church without a pope." That's what the founders came here for. Not to create a kind of international grab bag.

Big bump to that.

469 posted on 12/29/2004 6:09:31 PM PST by FITZ
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To: azhenfud

Did you ever hear of the bracero program?


470 posted on 12/29/2004 6:10:21 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: riri

I guess if you're just a good-for nothing lazy arrogant American the only job for you is to be sent to Iraq. That's a job Vicente Fox obviously doesn't want his citizens doing --- and doesn't pay enough to send the big bucks back to Mexico.


471 posted on 12/29/2004 6:15:20 PM PST by FITZ
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To: rolling_stone

Correct me if you will, that was before the dozens of other organizations infesting American soil were formed that advise illegals not to adhere to US law, right?


472 posted on 12/29/2004 6:16:07 PM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: rolling_stone
Did you ever hear of the bracero program?

Yep, and thousands never left.

473 posted on 12/29/2004 6:16:11 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: FITZ

It's the result of replacement costs rising.


474 posted on 12/29/2004 6:20:13 PM PST by bayourod (The states and cities with large immigrant labor pools are the prosperous ones.)
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To: sinkspur
The major glaring error in Tancredo's plan is his requirement that all illegals return to Mexico to apply for a guest worker visa.

What about those still in Mexico who weren't willing to break our laws but would like a chance at being "guest workers" --- should those who broke the law have the only opportunity? Those who were reluctant to break our laws be denied any chance?

475 posted on 12/29/2004 6:20:23 PM PST by FITZ
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To: claptrap
If you hang around long enough you will discover that conservatives are really big on justice, and being prejudicial is a sin against justice, as conservatives judge each and every person as individuals, not as members of some large group. We leave discussions on race-group identity politics to liberals and socialists.
476 posted on 12/29/2004 6:22:19 PM PST by Cultural Jihad ( ;-)
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To: FITZ
"I guess if you're just a good-for nothing lazy arrogant American the only job for you is to be sent to Iraq. "

On Christmas Day I visited my local Veteran's cemetery. There is a special section near the entrance for KIAs from Iraq and Afghanistan. There were three new headstones, bringing the total to 16.

I didn't get out of my car to pay respect to the three new soldiers because there were families around two graves. Both families looked obviously Hispanic.

Maybe not a majority, but quite a few of the headstones bear Hispanic names.

I'm sure even you would agree that they have assimilated, but some would complain that they are destroying the culture of America by being buried in a cemetery of "Americans."

477 posted on 12/29/2004 6:29:53 PM PST by bayourod (The states and cities with large immigrant labor pools are the prosperous ones.)
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To: bayourod

Looking hispanic doesn't mean you're a foreigner here.


478 posted on 12/29/2004 6:31:51 PM PST by FITZ
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To: FITZ

True, you can have the look of a Mexican citizen who is here illegally though.

I can spot most of them, I am sure immigration and most every one else can also.


479 posted on 12/29/2004 6:35:04 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: FITZ
Correct, but many immigrants are seeking to gain citizenship faster by entering the armed services, and Hispanics have served in our armed forces in greater percentages than some immigrant groups I can think of.
480 posted on 12/29/2004 6:36:02 PM PST by bayourod (The states and cities with large immigrant labor pools are the prosperous ones.)
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