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Bush Immigration Plan Would Allegedly 'Destroy the Middle Class'
www.townhall.com ^ | 29 December 2004 | Jeff Johnson

Posted on 12/29/2004 6:21:51 AM PST by Ginifer

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1 posted on 12/29/2004 6:21:52 AM PST by Ginifer
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To: Ginifer

"The system we have today is not a compassionate system. It's not working," Bush said Dec. 20. "And, as a result, the country is less secure than it could be with a rational system."




Be "compassionate" to your CITIZENS first G-DUB....secure the borders....security on the borders would be a great new years resolution dont you think?

worry about those wanting and waiting to get into the country second....


2 posted on 12/29/2004 6:24:02 AM PST by MikefromOhio (12 days until I can leave Iraq and stop selling hot dogs in Baghdad....and boycotting boycotts)
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To: Ginifer

The Open Borders Lobby is determined to create a legal supply of cheap labor. This should bother liberals, especially union workers, whose wages and living conditions would be undermined by Mexican competition subsidized by the federal government. Instead the Left is as committed to Hispandering as parts of the Right. And in the process, the interests of the American people is ignored in the rush to make sure a potent voting block is appeased.


3 posted on 12/29/2004 6:27:16 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Ginifer

Viva la Raza
Viva Aztlan
Viva los mojados
Viva Jorge Arbsusto El Presidente
All your burros are belong to nosotros


4 posted on 12/29/2004 6:29:55 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: goldstategop

"Hispandering" - I love it! Did you think that up?




Dubya is trying hard to become the first U.S. President both impeached AND convicted; there'll be a lot of folks in his own party against him if he keeps up this "Hispandering!"


5 posted on 12/29/2004 6:33:13 AM PST by Redbob
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To: Redbob

I can't claim credit, sorry. I think it was Don Feder who first coined it as an adjective for the unseemly way our bipartisan establishment has competed to make life easier for illegal immigrants even if that's antithetical to American values and hurts our national security in the long run.


6 posted on 12/29/2004 6:35:55 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Ginifer
Yawn. Just another "Bush is a traitor because he won't kick all of the immigrants out so my teenage son will be given a job he doesn't deserve paying more than he's worth" thread.

According to the Wall Street Journal:
"FAIR, NumbersUSA, Project-USA and more than a half-dozen similar groups that Republicans have become disturbingly comfy with, were founded or funded (or both) by John Tanton, a retired doctor in Michigan. In addition to trying to stop immigration to the U.S., appropriate population-control measures for Dr. Tanton and his network include promoting China's one-child policy, sterilizing Third World women and wider use of RU-486. "

7 posted on 12/29/2004 6:39:20 AM PST by bayourod (Our troops are already securing our borders against terrorists. They're killing them in Iraq.)
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To: Ginifer

There were 4 roofing jobs in my outer suburb cul-de-sac. 3 of the 4 had hispanic crews who didn't speak english.

These are not jobs that nobody wants.

A total lie is being foisted on the middle class.


8 posted on 12/29/2004 6:53:15 AM PST by tkathy (Ban all religious head garb.)
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To: Ginifer

...Bush's proposal is, "a great plan if your objective is to destroy the middle class in the United States...


The truth hurts, eh?


9 posted on 12/29/2004 6:56:32 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Ginifer

I hate to criticize the President, but lets face it--the current system was NEVER DESIGNED to work. The whole point is to let these illegals in so the US has a huge source of cheap, hardworking labor willing to do marginal jobs. The GROW AT ANY COST business community loves it & any why shouldn't they?--its a great deal for them (in the short term anyway). The problem is that (a) costs for these folks are absorbed by the average taxpayer (not the businesses that use the labor), and (b) it degrades the quality of life for the rest of us. In the long term, these businesses will suffer along with the rest of us.

The US population is now at 300M--I'm not sure I see the advantage of going to 400M, with the extra 100M being largely illegals. I really don't care if my building rennovation costs less (due to cheap labor) I have to commute 1+ hours each way to my job. Or if half the kids in my son's school don't speak English.

There a lots of ways we can stop this--and the President knows it. First, he can handing out REAL fines to companies that hire workers with bogus SS numbers. Second, he can set up detention centers for illegals who are caught through routine means (e.g., traffic stops). Thirdly, he can crack down on giving these people Government aid when they ask for it. Lastly, he can push legislation prohibiting drivers licences for illegals. There is a lot that can be done by applying existing law to the problem.

Unfortunately, neither party will do anything. The Dems want the voters. The Republicans want to keep business happy and want their slice of the Hispanic vote too. As a result, America will change for the worse in the next 50 years. Hopefully I'm wrong about this, but I doubt it.


12 posted on 12/29/2004 7:04:10 AM PST by rbg81
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To: Budweiser

The unchecked illegal flood is already eroding the middle class. All anyone has to do is open their eyes to see it.


13 posted on 12/29/2004 7:04:13 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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""The idea that they are going to do thorough, comprehensive background checks on all these people to make sure that we're not letting in criminals or potential terrorists is preposterous," Mehlman said. "They couldn't even do a decent background check on their own nominee for Homeland Security secretary." "

That's about as stupid an argument as I have ever seen.

14 posted on 12/29/2004 7:05:36 AM PST by bayourod (Our troops are already securing our borders against terrorists. They're killing them in Iraq.)
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To: bayourod

You must be a converted Democrat, you don't address the policy but dig up dirt on those espousing an idea.


15 posted on 12/29/2004 7:05:37 AM PST by jeremiah (Either take the gloves off of our troops, or let them come home NOW)
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To: bayourod

Then you obviously don't understand the arguement, because it's completely sound.


16 posted on 12/29/2004 7:07:13 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: Ginifer; A. Pole
"We ought to have a system that recognizes people are coming here to do jobs that Americans will not do."

Somebody wanna explain wny the law of supply and demand should not apply to employers? If Americans don't want those jobs, pay more until they do.

17 posted on 12/29/2004 7:07:31 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Budweiser
Middle class America will vastly shrink under this illegal alien scamnesty

I know GW gave up drink but this amnesty plan is the product of greed addled minds.  Is a vile cave in to a piece of crap 3rd world nation that's been jerking us around and imposing on us for years. Mexico didn't lift a finger for us in the UN while we trying to get UN approval. I would give anything to be cut free from that leaching nation to the south.
18 posted on 12/29/2004 7:07:37 AM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: Budweiser

95% of outstanding felony murder warrants in Orange County California are for illegals. Nearly 30% of all prisoners are illegals. I guess it is compassionate to make sure we have more of this.


19 posted on 12/29/2004 7:07:51 AM PST by jeremiah (Either take the gloves off of our troops, or let them come home NOW)
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To: Ginifer
Dubya's plan is flawed in the extreme, it could not be more wrong headed. The libs like to tag Bush with the term stupid ... and in this sense they're right. This will do nothing more than accelerate this countries demise, turning it into just another central or south American country within 50 years ... guaranteed.
20 posted on 12/29/2004 7:10:36 AM PST by BluH2o
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