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Earthquake: Coincidence or a Corporate Oil Tragedy? (Barf for the Unbelievable)
Independent Media TV ^ | 29 December 2004 | Andrew Limburg

Posted on 12/29/2004 4:59:47 AM PST by shrinkermd

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To: djf

For the sake of some interesting conversation here, is it at all POSSIBLE that the use of heavy explosives underground could set off an earthquake (i.e. underground testing of nuclear weapons)?

BTW, I'm a conservative and NOT an environmentalist. I'm just interested in hearing opinions here if anyone here is knowledgeable in geology.


41 posted on 12/29/2004 5:45:02 AM PST by Muzzle_em
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To: Poohbah

We need to see if ELF has purchased any cavitators and submarines recently:
State Of Fear, by Michael Crichton
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0066214130/103-2771781-3780647?v=glance


42 posted on 12/29/2004 5:50:14 AM PST by sanchmo ("The world was not as we wished it to be. The world was as it was.")
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To: COBOL2Java

OR, the whales are depressed...

Can't be. According to enviroloons, the waters of the world are awash with excreted Prozac. Whales are happy campers & the ones down south are especially happy because they are on vacation, working on their tans...

43 posted on 12/29/2004 5:50:21 AM PST by elli1 (That's my story & I'm sticking to it.)
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To: shrinkermd

Email to : editor@independent-media.tv


It isn't often that I see something so outrageous in the media that I take the time to respond.

Mr. Limburg's above mentioned article captures a certain unprofessional element of those who call themselves servants of the public. This pseudo-scientific diatribe is aimed at a demographic that consists of Socialist Tree Huggers and Eco-terrorists....who create their own science of "imagination" to support their ongoing anti-(Just about everything) and dysfunctional anger.

No where in this article was a professional geologist referenced nor was there anything even closely approaching the "Scientific Method" utilized to support the innuendo. The article did succeed in utilizing bandwidth. Wooohooo!!!

My mouse will no longer click on your garbage.

Hal Gxxxxx

End of Email




Did I do good???

LOL


44 posted on 12/29/2004 5:52:39 AM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: shrinkermd

Man with his puny popguns is not going to shift the crust of the Earth. We are talking about 20 Orders of Magnitude difference in the amount of energy involved.

Now if they were exploring for oil using 20 Megaton nuclear bombs, this author might have something...


45 posted on 12/29/2004 5:55:00 AM PST by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: foolscap
Very good point and observation. I was also thinking along the lines of poisonous gases etc. that may have been leaking along the fault line too, in advance of the quake(s).
46 posted on 12/29/2004 5:55:05 AM PST by EBH (A very proud Aunt of a US Marine in Fallujah)
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To: Poohbah; shrinkermd; hchutch; general_re; BlueLancer; Pukin Dog; Constitution Day; Howlin

Michael Moore has the movie rights.


47 posted on 12/29/2004 5:56:57 AM PST by aculeus
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To: Muzzle_em

It's possible. But one would have to know where the most stress is on the fault. Even if you were able to know that, you would need to know alot about the surrounding geology.

I've done alot of exploding of stuff underground. And no matter how many times you've done it before, logic and experience are almost useless. The rock breaks and shears the way the rock wants to break and shear.

It's utterly amazing what you see down there. The types of rocks (even in an igneous/amorphic zone like we're working in) is incredible. And the shears where whole faces of rock disappear or have been shifted out of site are amazing.

I'm talking slates/quartzites/andesites/granedosites (and even limestone) near Yosemite.
And a tiny, tiny amount of gold/silver/molybdenum.


48 posted on 12/29/2004 5:59:24 AM PST by djf
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To: shrinkermd

I haven't decided. It's either a lot of hot air or a whale of a story.


49 posted on 12/29/2004 6:01:58 AM PST by hflynn
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To: Halgr

Yep! Ya done good!


50 posted on 12/29/2004 6:02:52 AM PST by truthseeker2
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To: shrinkermd

Just wondering - What caused earthquakes and whale beachings before man started searching for oil? Or is whale beaching a recent phenomenon?


51 posted on 12/29/2004 6:03:17 AM PST by rwa265
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To: shrinkermd

I've been waiting patiently to see how the evidence would unfold that this earthquake and tidal wave were ALL BUSH'S FAULT.

I see I didn't have long to wait.


52 posted on 12/29/2004 6:06:01 AM PST by samtheman
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To: shrinkermd

My cheesecake fell on Christmas Eve...now I know which greedy corporate interests to blame.
"Next piece of crap, please!"


53 posted on 12/29/2004 6:18:07 AM PST by steve8714
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To: Paul C. Jesup

Ditto that.


54 posted on 12/29/2004 6:29:39 AM PST by marty60
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To: Muzzle_em
The earthquake was at least 6 miles beneath the crust (I also remember a 40 km depth being mentioned). Also, the quake moved a section of crust longer than Oklahoma over 100 yards.

I seem to remember a guy proposing that we set off explosives to help the San Andreas fault relieve strain in a series of very small quakes, rather than store up strain for a giant quake. Couldn't be done, not enough bombs in the world, couldn't get them deep enough, etc. Very quickly debunked by real geophysicists.

Next to the raw power of the planet, all of man's explosives are little more than bubbles in the tub, so to speak.

55 posted on 12/29/2004 6:36:37 AM PST by texas booster (Bless the legal immigrants!)
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To: Dane
the envirowhackos have lost it.

I don't think they ever really had it.

56 posted on 12/29/2004 6:41:59 AM PST by Marauder ("I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just.")
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To: shrinkermd

>>>>We will be following up on this story as more information is gathered.

and as Comedy Central finds us an appropriate time slot.


57 posted on 12/29/2004 6:48:34 AM PST by .cnI redruM (The UN thinks we're stingy? We need to show those pricks stingy!)
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To: shrinkermd
We will be following up on this story as more information is gathered.

Translation: "My care providers are here to take me back to my rubber room. Ta-ta for now."

58 posted on 12/29/2004 6:53:49 AM PST by Marauder ("I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just.")
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To: shrinkermd
The logical rebuttal to this piece of enviro-trash is that there has been seismic work going on in those seas for many years.
Why did nature zero in on this particular day?
59 posted on 12/29/2004 6:55:26 AM PST by TexasCowboy (Texan by birth, citizen of Jesusland by the Grace of God)
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To: shrinkermd

60 posted on 12/29/2004 6:58:06 AM PST by itsamelman (“Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh.” -- Al Swearengen)
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