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Vatican raps Israel for 'denying disaster'
J Post ^ | 29 dec 04 | Staff

Posted on 12/29/2004 4:37:34 AM PST by white trash redneck

The Vatican newspaper has denounced what it called a decision by the IDF to deny emergency help to disaster victims in Sri Lanka.

Calling for "a radical and dramatic change of perspective" among people "too often preoccupied with making war," L'Osservatore Romano singled out Israeli military leaders for declining a request for emergency medical help.

Contrary to the Vatican report, an Israeli plane carrying 80 tons of food and medical supplies worth $100,000 was set to depart for Sri Lanka Wednesday morning. At the request of the Sri Lankan Foreign Ministry, a team of some 150 Israeli medical and security personnel aborted their planned trip to the island nation Tuesday night.

The Vatican paper observed that in what "should be a time for unconditional solidarity," some world leaders seem incapable of escaping a "small-minded approach that restricts their horizons."

The fact that the devastation swept across different societies, cultures, and nations should help to reinforce the universal perspective, the paper suggested. (Jerusalem Post staff and agencies)


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: humanitarianrelief; idf; israel; judeophobes; judeophobia; leftisttalkingpoints; loginthyowneye; pontificating; reliefindulgences; romancatholicism; srilanka; sumatraquake; tsunami; vatican; victimology101; vmaryinmyoatmeal
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To: Romulus
Unfortunately one place progress is not being made is in Israel's war on indigenous Christians in Palestine, and its systematic and sustained interference with the rights of Christian bodies to function freely in the holy land.

Could you give us one example of this? Oh, and at the same time, give us an example of those same Christians condemning the murderous PLO.

81 posted on 12/29/2004 7:31:42 AM PST by sinkspur ("How dare you presume to tell God what He cannot do" God Himself)
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To: goldstategop
The Catholic Church should sit down and shut up. What have they done to aid the Sri Lankans?

what have they dont to help Christians butchered by Muslims across the globe? Nothing. All we hear is papal platitudes about Islam the "great religion". sick.

82 posted on 12/29/2004 7:33:19 AM PST by montag813
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To: Romulus
The Christian Church is NOT Israel. I do not believe in replacement theology. It is a lie from the devil.
83 posted on 12/29/2004 7:34:42 AM PST by Esther Ruth (Though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow.)
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To: white trash redneck
as a former Catholic I say who cares what comes out of the vatican. Don't they know Israel's help was refused? Keep your people in darkness and don't tell them the truth about the Gospel. Poor, blind and dumb.

God forgive the Catholic church for their leading people into darkness.

sorry if this offends any believers. After 12 years of Catholic school... I finally know what God put in the Gospel.

84 posted on 12/29/2004 7:35:59 AM PST by bedolido (I can forgive you for killing my sons, but I cannot forgive you for forcing me to kill your sons)
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To: sinkspur
Even you admit that Israelis are blameless in this situation.

No, I don't. I said perhaps they are blameless.

Then again, maybe they're not. It sounds like it may have been blown out of proportion, though.

Yes, there are some anti-Americans and anti-Zionists in the Curia. But that does not mean that every criticism of Israel or America is entirely without merit. Some are, some aren't.

There is more anti-Catholicism on this board than there is anti-anything at the Vatican, though.

85 posted on 12/29/2004 7:37:17 AM PST by B Knotts
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To: B Knotts
But that does not mean that every criticism of Israel or America is entirely without merit. Some are, some aren't.

There is more anti-Catholicism on this board than there is anti-anything at the Vatican, though.

Just as every criticism of Israel or America is not entirely without merit, the same holds true of the Vatican.

The problem I see is that the Vatican knows it can get away with criticizing democracies and republics without repercussion to Catholics in those countries.

The same cannot be said of Muslim countries, which is why we rarely see any public utterances against those theocracies by the Vatican.

It's the imbalance that gets folks' dander up, and I can understand it.

86 posted on 12/29/2004 7:48:08 AM PST by sinkspur ("How dare you presume to tell God what He cannot do" God Himself)
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To: Romulus
"Actually, the next question is, Who/What is "Israel"?

Israel is Jacob, son of Isaac, and his descendents in the Law. It is not a political entity that arrogates to itself the name that belongs to a people. Just because you name something "Israel" doesn't make it so."

There is only one place to answer this question and that is the Bible.

Seems pretty twisted with the announcement of 100,000 dead and rising to be having a political fight.
87 posted on 12/29/2004 7:48:11 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Romulus
Just because you name something "Israel" doesn't make it so.

When I read your words, a corolary immediately came to mind:
Just because YOU refuse to name something "Israel" doesn't make it so it is not Israel.

88 posted on 12/29/2004 7:51:56 AM PST by lupie
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To: sinkspur

I'm surprised at your seeming ignorance of the Israeli harassment of Christian religious personnel working in the Holy Land (searches, denial of visas, etc.), and of its foot-dragging and sabotage with respect to talks concerning the Fundamental Agreement and taxation of religious institutions.


89 posted on 12/29/2004 7:57:32 AM PST by Romulus (Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?)
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To: Romulus
No; that Vatican is a figment of your imagination.

Is that anything like a fig newton?

90 posted on 12/29/2004 8:04:19 AM PST by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 48% of Americans)
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To: sinkspur
Just as every criticism of Israel or America is not entirely without merit, the same holds true of the Vatican.

Obviously. But around here, we have little of the former, and bushels full of the latter.

Sometimes it gets to feeling like a snake-handler convention.

91 posted on 12/29/2004 8:11:14 AM PST by B Knotts
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To: Romulus
its systematic and sustained interference with the rights of Christian bodies to function freely in the holy land.

Have you ever been to Israel? I have and you are full of shit. You must have missed the articles on the city of Jerusalem giving out free Christmas trees. There are many practicing Christians there, and they enjoy all the same rights as any other citizens. Or by "systematic and sustained interference with the rights of Christian bodies" do you mean, "they won't let us force them all to convert?

93 posted on 12/29/2004 8:39:07 AM PST by Bella_Bru (You're about as funny as a case sensitive search engine.)
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To: Yehuda
The proposed aid was medical, but, horrors, like many countries Israel's immediate response rescue and medical personel are military. Most reports I've seen their 4 personel assessment team was about the first to get there.

IDF SPOKESPERSON ANNOUNCEMENT December 27th, 2004 IDF
humanitarian and medical delegation leaving for Sri Lanka

An IDF humanitarian and medical delegation will arrive to the area of devastation in Sri Lanka in the wake of the disaster. The delegation will be sent following the decision of the Defense Minister and the IDF Chief of Staff and in coordination with the Foreign Ministry.

The delegation will include approximately 150 rescue and medical personnel including doctors, nurses and paramedics, and will be under the command of the Chief of the Home-Front Command Staff, Brigadier General Avraham Ben David (Benda).

The delegation that will leave on IAF and leased aircraft, will be equipped with medical equipment and supplies, water, food and other equipment such as tents, blankets, mattresses and generators.

A medical facility will be assembled at the location, comprising of specialist doctors, an emergency department, an internal medicine department, a pediatric department as well as laboratory and X-ray facilities.

94 posted on 12/29/2004 8:40:37 AM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: Yehuda

BTW, the US has anounced sending 10 or 12 naval vessels as well as a contingent of Marines. It's not about the military co-ordination, rather selectivity about who might save your citizens lives, or not.


95 posted on 12/29/2004 8:48:29 AM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: Bella_Bru

This is almost unbelievable.

American Catholics need to make their views towards this outrage known, loudly and immediately.

And whoever is making editorial decisions at the Vatican newspaper needs a new post.

A small parish in Sri Lanka would be a good choice of destinations...


96 posted on 12/29/2004 8:49:00 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Shaking nine point oh - With a deadly wave goodbye - oh four departed...)
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To: Romulus
I'm surprised at your seeming ignorance of the Israeli harassment of Christian religious personnel working in the Holy Land (searches, denial of visas, etc.), and of its foot-dragging and sabotage with respect to talks concerning the Fundamental Agreement and taxation of religious institutions.

Uh, Israel is right to be suspicious of any and evey Palestinian.

As to the other things you mention, yes, I am completely unaware of them. What does any of it have to do with the Vatican's silence on Palestinian's express desire to destroy the state of Israel?

97 posted on 12/29/2004 8:49:52 AM PST by sinkspur ("How dare you presume to tell God what He cannot do" God Himself)
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To: white trash redneck
Glad to see the Catholic Church turn their attention away from investigating sexual abusive priests....at least for a moment in order to castigate Israel.

As a fallen-away Catholic I can say that...can't I?

/sarcasm

98 posted on 12/29/2004 8:56:46 AM PST by DCPatriot (I don't do politically correct very well either.)
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To: white trash redneck

Ignoring Israeli Kindness
By HonestReporting.com
HonestReporting.com | December 29, 2004


When disaster strikes anywhere in the world, Israelis can be counted on to help. So it's no surprise that within hours of the devastating tsunami in the Indian Ocean, the following humanitarian missions all departed from the tiny Jewish state:


IDF rescue team on its way to Sri Lanka

-- The Israeli organization Latet ('To Give') filled a jumbo jet with 18 tons of supplies.

-- A medical team headed by four doctors from Jerusalem's Hadassah Hospital arrived in Sri Lanka on Monday night (Dec. 27), carrying medicine and baby food. The doctors specialize in rescue operations, trauma and pediatrics.

-- An IDF rescue team is now on its way to Sri Lanka with 80 tons of aid material, including 10,000 blankets, tents, nylon sheeting and water containers, all contributed by the IDF.

-- A ZAKA rescue-and-recovery team arrived in the disaster areas Monday night, armed with its specialized equipment for identifying bodies.

-- A Health Ministry contingent left for Thailand on Monday night to aid in rescue efforts. The group includes doctors, nurses and four members of the IDF.

-- Israel has also offered its assistance to India \ a search-and-rescue team from the Home Front Command, as well as consignments of food and medicine.

Yet, with the exception of UPI (as of this writing - Tues. 4pm EST), none of the major news outlets have dedicated an article to this remarkable Israeli humanitarian effort. This, despite the fact that the IDF sent all Israel-based journalists a press release Monday evening (Dec. 27), inviting them to the airport to cover the departure of one IDF group.

This is all the more surprising given the fact that the major news agencies have entire teams of reporters in Israel, who submit at least one 'Israel-article' each day.

So what did the Associated Press send out today to its 15,000 subscribing news agencies? A dreary story about the construction of a new IDF base near Jenin. AP sarcastically remarked in this 'news' story that the base's 'elaborate color scheme and landscaping shows that the army is not planning to pull its forces out of the area anytime soon.'

The lack of media interest in this Israeli humanitarian effort means that Israeli benevolence toward other peoples is not fairly conveyed to the western world. Perhaps if it were conveyed, observers would come to understand something else -- that Israel's response to Palestinian violence is also motivated by the highest ethical concern for all human life, and is not (as the media so often portray it) driven by an oppressive, mean-spirited national ethos.

HonestReporting encourages subscribers to write a letter to your local paper, praising the massive Israeli humanitarian mission to South Asia -- which the major media have apparently deemed 'not newsworthy.'

Thank you for your ongoing involvement in the battle against media bias.


99 posted on 12/29/2004 8:59:21 AM PST by rang1995 (They will love us when we win)
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To: white trash redneck

What the hell is the Vatican talking about? Sri Lanka refused the help, right?


100 posted on 12/29/2004 9:01:03 AM PST by Petronski (Thank God I'm only watching the game....controlling it....)
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