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Vatican raps Israel for 'denying disaster'
J Post ^ | 29 dec 04 | Staff

Posted on 12/29/2004 4:37:34 AM PST by white trash redneck

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To: saradippity

"You do know that the topic country, Sri Lanka, is comprised of Buddhists and Hindus primarily?"

Do you know the ethnicity/religion of the actual gov't officials who told Israel to stay away? I know a lot of people hate the Jews, but do you really think Buddists and Hindi hate then _that_ much?


341 posted on 12/29/2004 11:32:47 PM PST by poindexter
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To: B Knotts

"Sri Lanka only has 7% Muslims. Try again."

I don't think I need to. I don't know the actual ethnicity/religion of the gov't official who told Israel to stay away, but who else but Muslims hate the Jews _that_ much? The Buddists? The Hindi?


342 posted on 12/29/2004 11:44:01 PM PST by poindexter
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To: xm177e2
I would be interested in what your thoughts are on the translation Romulus offered in his post #287. It seems to state something quite different than that which appeared in the original "story" that was the topic of this thread.

It seems to me there are many men,scattered throughout all religions who actively seek to set all believers in God against one another. Then they can ascend to supremacy and enslave the rest of us useless breeders and eaters.

343 posted on 12/30/2004 12:29:31 AM PST by saradippity
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To: G Larry

From which issue of "This Rock" did you get this? Thanks.


344 posted on 12/30/2004 4:11:08 AM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: stands2reason

""If the New York Times is for it, I'm against it."

Right on!!!!! I follow the same secular version as well, except that since I live in Virginia, I also add the Washington Pravda (er...Post) to the list!


345 posted on 12/30/2004 4:29:24 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (tired of shucking and jiving)
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To: sinkspur

In order to believe what ever the pope says , whether off the cuff or "ex Cathedra" both the Pope and the institution must be believed.
The level of trust that catholics have in the pope must be based on respect for him and the institution.

That trust has been sorely eroded over the last 3 years and continues as many parishes around the country continue to obstruct the " finalization " of the Sexual abuse crisis.

If the people truly believe in the goodness of the clergy and the Vatican including the pope, How is it that only about 10% of the Faithful still go to confession?


346 posted on 12/30/2004 6:45:57 AM PST by chatham
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

December 2000


347 posted on 12/30/2004 6:53:32 AM PST by G Larry (Admiral James Woolsey as National Intelligence Director)
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To: Baraonda

Sorry you got lambasted for mentioning this thing about spies. I hope you or someone else can find this re Sri Lankan gov't. Have you tried googling it?

You have to remember that many here are touchy about this.

I take it as a 'given' that spies will be part of any package {whether military or not} sent to help...that's including us. Seems to me it's nothing to be concerned about.


348 posted on 12/30/2004 10:04:52 AM PST by meema
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To: sinkspur; chris1
The actual dogma of Papal infallibility has been used exactly ONCE since it was defined: the Assumption of Mary (not exactly an earthshaking decree).

You are right and the Church is wrong?

Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith:
RESPONSUM AD DUBIUM REGARDING ORDINATIO SACERDOTALIS
Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith
On Ordinatio Sacerdotalis
Responsum ad Dubium
October 28, 1995

... In response to this precise act of the Magisterium of the Roman Pontiff, explicitly addressed to the entire Catholic Church, all members of the faithful are required to give their assent to the teaching stated therein. To this end, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, with the approval of the Holy Father, has given an official Reply on the nature of this assent; it is a matter of full definitive assent, that is to say, irrevocable, to a doctrine taught infallibly by the Church....


349 posted on 12/30/2004 2:00:42 PM PST by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: OLD REGGIE

Huh????

As far as I am concerned, no one who is human is infallible on anything.

To believe otherwise is fantasy and idiocy.


350 posted on 12/30/2004 2:07:45 PM PST by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: chris1; sinkspur
Huh????

As far as I am concerned, no one who is human is infallible on anything.

To believe otherwise is fantasy and idiocy.



Actually I agree with you. I believe the doctrine of 'infallibility" is an invention of the RCC.

I was merely suggesting to sinkspur that Cardinal Ratzinger disagrees with him.

Remember this: There is no teaching or doctrine of the RCC which is clear enough that it cannot be denied or modified as required.
351 posted on 12/30/2004 3:18:29 PM PST by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: G Larry

Thank you.


352 posted on 12/30/2004 9:17:14 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

Don't know if you have seen it, but here is the corrected story...

The following is a corrected version of a story that appeared on CWNews.com earlier this week, in which a crucial error in translation caused a serious misinterpretation of the news. CWNews apologizes for the error.

Vatican, Dec. 28 (CWNews.com) - The Vatican newspaper has denounced a decision by Sri Lanka to reject emergency aid offered by the Israeli government. Sri Lanka declined the Israeli aid because it would have been furnished by a military team.

Calling for "a radical and dramatic change of perspective" among people "too often preoccupied with making war," L'Osservatore Romano chastised the government of the stricken Asian nation for putting unnecessary restrictions on an Israeli offer to furnish medical help.

The Vatican paper observed that in what "should be a time for unconditional solidarity," some world leaders seem incapable of escaping a "small-minded approach that restricts their horizons." The suffering caused by the tsunami has created "a mass of deaths, across borders," L'Osservatore observed. The fact that the devastation swept across different societies, cultures, and nations should help to reinforce the universal perspective, the paper suggested.

Please accept my apology for making my original smart ass post. And thank you again for the earlier info you addressed to me.


353 posted on 12/30/2004 9:51:48 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: B Knotts
>>>>>>Is it just possible that Israel may occasionally be open to some criticism? Perhaps they are blameless in this particular situation, but I'm just tired of the instant assumption around here that Israel=>right;Vatican=>wrong.<<<<<

Amen to that!

354 posted on 12/31/2004 8:25:54 AM PST by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: Romulus

Is that the text of the original? Or did the Vatican change it? I mean, if they're willing to hide child molesting priests, I think they'd be willing to hide a paragraph or two of text. I doubt the JPost misinterpreted the article to that degree. It looks like a classic mainstream media-type scrub-job to cover up lies they originally printed without admitting fault.


355 posted on 12/31/2004 4:01:16 PM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Romulus

There is also Christian immigration to Israel (primarily from the former Soviet Union). Of course there is no Christian immigration to Muslim countries.


356 posted on 01/02/2005 9:42:15 PM PST by Michael2001 (Every man lives, and every man dies, but not every man truly lives)
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To: Romulus

Also keep in mind that 100 years ago the Christians had no where to go. The West would not have taken Arabs in (Christian or not).


357 posted on 01/02/2005 9:44:18 PM PST by Michael2001 (Every man lives, and every man dies, but not every man truly lives)
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