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WHY CANADIANS FEAR AMERICA
Moving To Canada, eh ? ^ | November 8, 2004 | Dave Pollard

Posted on 12/29/2004 2:28:35 AM PST by The Loan Arranger

The title of this essay alone is likely to get me into trouble with both Canadians ("We do not!") and Americans ("You ingrates still don't get it."), but someone ought to talk about this. Let me start by dispensing with two myths: That most Canadians and Americans are really very similar, and that Canada couldn't exist without American support and forbearance.

I spend half of my work life working with Americans and half with Canadians. While there are dangers in generalizing, recent opinion polls illustrate fundamental differences between American and Canadian worldviews and value. Here are three major differences:

Americans are unilateralists, Canadians are multilateralists: The latest Environics poll shows that 70% of Canadians still oppose the attack on Iraq, not because they think Saddam was a great guy, but because they think military action against another country must have international support. Seventy percent of Americans now think the Iraq war was justified. That's a huge difference of opinion. The very concept of a pre-emptive unilateral attack on another nation is anathema to most Canadians. And having the majority of a country right beside you support a regime that relishes pre-emptive unilateral military adventures is terrifying. Americans have an authoritarian worldview, Canadians have a conciliatory worldview: A survey taken in 2000 revealed that 44% of Americans but only 20% of Canadians believe "the father of the family should be the master of his own house" and that "good parents make and enforce strict rules for their children". If you buy Lakoff's nation-as-family metaphor for conservatives (strict father worldview) and liberals (nurturing parent worldview), this means that Americans are evenly split (perhaps badly, even schizophrenically split) between conservative and liberal worldviews, while Canadians, like Europeans, are overwhelmingly liberal.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: canuckistan; euroweenies; hosers
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1 posted on 12/29/2004 2:28:36 AM PST by The Loan Arranger
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To: The Loan Arranger
...recent opinion polls illustrate fundamental differences between American and Canadian worldviews and value.

Wow. If there are "fundamental differences" between the worldviews of Americans and Canadians, how would the author characterize the difference in worldviews between Americans and, let's say, Iranians?
2 posted on 12/29/2004 2:41:19 AM PST by BikerNYC
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To: The Loan Arranger

Canada was not attacked on Sept. 11..America was. This reminds me of the woman brought to the emergency room, half-way beaten to death by a physically abusive partner, only to be accused of being in that condition because she somehow was offensive to or did not meet the needs of the person who just tried to kill her. Furthermore, she is advised to go back and try to appease the monster instead of turning him over to the authorities for the punishment he deserves. This is a simplistic explanation but not very different in it's basic concept from the awful conflict going on now with the Islamofacists. My fictitious woman would be in even more trouble if she was someone envied by the protector's of the perpetrator. Is it possible that Canada's MSM is projecting a minority view of the world's political situations to the people?


3 posted on 12/29/2004 2:42:51 AM PST by jazzlite (esat)
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To: The Loan Arranger

"Canadians have a conciliatory worldview:"

It didn't work for Neville Chamberlain before WWII. "Peace with honor" was one of the biggest blunders and cost Europe, Canada and the US dearly in lives and money. If you aren't willing to defend freedom, then don't criticize those who are.


4 posted on 12/29/2004 2:43:01 AM PST by MadAnthony1776
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To: jazzlite

The only reason Canada has not been attacked yet is it is allowing itself to be used as a base for terrorists operating against us.

In other words, Canada is part of the Bush doctrine of a terrorist supporting state. Let them proceed at their own peril.


5 posted on 12/29/2004 2:46:11 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: The Loan Arranger
I've given this some thought and have come to the conclusion that I just don't care what Canada thinks. If we weren't their trading partner they'd be in deep crap while we would be mildly annoyed athigher prices; they would have to protect themselves and nothing they do would be of any consequence to me.

I have heard all the Canadian rationalizations for their attitude and it all comes down to a "Me too, Europe!" attitude. It is a creaking, backward-looking yahoo state of socialists who wish they could somehow leave this noisy, exciting "New World" and float back to their motherland in Europe. But they can't, so they live like those birds that survive by pulling bugs off the hides of rhinos, tiny-voiced and inconsequential to the decision-making process by the giant it lives off of.

Canadians believe they can give the finger to their neighbor but there will be no hard feelings. They're wrong, and if they became our declared enemy we would crush them in an afternoon and then forget we did it by the next morning because they don't matter to us. They are a perfect example of the "nice" friend who never raises his voice, isn't loud or sometimes gets in fights with you, and is one your mom apporves of for his polite manners...yet as soon as you get in trouble and the cops shows up, he's the one who VOLUNTEERS to rat you out.

Fortunately, Canada is a nothing in the larger scheme of things, so I will do as does the rest of the world (including their beloved France, which treats Canada like the kiss-ass nation it is), and ignore them.

6 posted on 12/29/2004 2:46:51 AM PST by Darkwolf377
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To: The Loan Arranger

P.S> To answer the question posed by the headline: "Because they're pussies!"


7 posted on 12/29/2004 2:50:12 AM PST by Darkwolf377
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To: The Loan Arranger
Canada is a bastion of liberalism from the media to higher education. In other words a large portion of the population has been brainwashed.
8 posted on 12/29/2004 2:53:34 AM PST by Doofer
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To: The Loan Arranger
Canada is irrelevant.

It is totally dependent on the US for food, finished goods and its defense.

Their whacko socialist government has gutted a once fine military. Canada, today, is unable to defend itself.

Canada's Percent of Gross National Product (2000) is 2.3%, approximately the same as Mexico (2.0%) and way behind little Italy at 3.5%.

I am curious how far left Canada will swing before its citizens outside of Quebec and Ontario do something?
9 posted on 12/29/2004 3:01:00 AM PST by Beckwith (John, you said I was going to be the First Lady, as of now, you're on the couch . . .)
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To: The Loan Arranger

Talk about a clueless world view... The writer of this article is a complete moron.


10 posted on 12/29/2004 3:01:42 AM PST by DB (©)
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To: The Loan Arranger

I didn't have to read further after "pre-emptive unilateral attack." Insult the coalition forces....yeah, that's the ticket. How to make friends and influence people.


11 posted on 12/29/2004 3:07:48 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (Trained by English Setters)
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To: The Loan Arranger

Ever visit FRee Dominion? Canadians with hearts closer to our own than most know of. Wonderful people who hate liberalism as much as we do. These are the people I call "neighbors". The rest are just "occupiers".


12 posted on 12/29/2004 3:13:06 AM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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There's a lot wrong with this article but one thing that comes to mind...where was the Canadian outrage over Kosovo? Certainly no "internation support" there (I assume by international support they mean the UN).

I expect that it's more of a socialism thing rather than an international support thing. Clinton was one of their own, thus no outrage.

Certainly it's not possible to generalize from such a small sample but I worked with a couple of "conservative" Canadians. Great guys, wonderful people but their conservatism was limited to bitching about taxes. They were agog about the wonderful Canadian medical system, how well the government took care of people, etc.

The above shouldn't be taken to reflect on the hard core conservative Canadians here on FR but my friends, you are in the position I was in when I lived in California in the 80s. Might be time to consider bailing as I don't think that Canada can be saved from socialism. Either way you have my prayers.

13 posted on 12/29/2004 3:22:44 AM PST by Proud_texan
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To: The Loan Arranger
and that Canada couldn't exist without American support and forbearance.

I wonder if Mr pollard would like to test this "myth" - as he calls it :-)

14 posted on 12/29/2004 3:23:50 AM PST by Sunsong
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To: Caipirabob

Boy, that third paragraph is a dead giveaway!

Any time I see "multilateralist" alarm bells go off. "Multilateralist" is a code word for "Someone who will stand around with others of like mind wringing their hands, unable to make a decision unless if favors marxists, communists, dictators, socialists, cheese eating surrender monkeys or child molesters."

Other than that, I have no opinion on this subject!


15 posted on 12/29/2004 3:24:59 AM PST by rlmorel
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To: Caipirabob

Boy, that third paragraph is a dead giveaway!

Any time I see "multilateralist" alarm bells go off. "Multilateralist" is a code word for "Someone who will stand around with others of like mind wringing their hands, unable to make a decision unless if favors marxists, communists, dictators, socialists, cheese eating surrender monkeys or child molesters."

Other than that, I have no opinion on this subject!


16 posted on 12/29/2004 3:25:42 AM PST by rlmorel
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To: Darkwolf377

Fortunately, Canada is a nothing in the larger scheme of things, so I will do as does the rest of the world (including their beloved France, which treats Canada like the kiss-ass nation it is), and ignore them.

"Amen"


17 posted on 12/29/2004 3:27:13 AM PST by garylmoore (God Bless you W, you have prevailed.)
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To: The Loan Arranger

There is hope: http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB/portal.php


18 posted on 12/29/2004 3:40:45 AM PST by PGalt
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To: rlmorel

"Diversity" works well, up there, eh?...those happy Quebecers, they just love being part of a diverse, multi-cultural, multi-lingual country..


19 posted on 12/29/2004 3:41:22 AM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to propagate her gene pool. Any volunteers?)
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To: The Loan Arranger

Canada is a do-nothing, whining, mess of a social welfare state.


20 posted on 12/29/2004 3:49:45 AM PST by tkathy (Ban all religious head garb.)
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