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Human Activities Contributed to Tsunami's Ravages: Environmental Expert (Here It Comes)
AFP via Yapoo ^ | 12/27/04 | AP

Posted on 12/27/2004 4:03:18 PM PST by Dallas59

PARIS (AFP) - Human activities, notably the building of coastal resorts and the destruction of natural protection, contributed to the enormous loss of life from killer tidal waves that hit the shores of the Indian Ocean after an earthquake, an environmental expert said.

Jeff McNeely, chief scientist of the Swiss-based World Conservation Union (IUCN), who lived for several years in Indonesia and Thailand, two of the countries hit by Sunday's disaster, said it was "nothing new for nature" in a geologically active region.

"What has made this a disaster is that people have started to occupy part of the landscape that they shouldn't have occupied," he told AFP in a telephone interview from Paris. "Fifty years ago the coastline was not densely occupied as now by tourist hotels."

The hotels did not replace traditional villages because the villagers built inland, McNeely said.

"What has also happened over the last several decades is that many mangroves have been cleared to grow shrimp ponds so that we, here in Europe, can have cheap shrimp," he added.

"The mangroves were all along the coasts where there are shallow waters. They offered protection against things like tsunamis. Over the last 20-30 years, "they were cleared by people who didn't have the long-term knowledge of why these mangroves should have been saved, by outsiders who get concessions from the governments and set up shrimp or prawn farms."

The shrimps and prawns are sold to Europeans and other foreigners "at a price that does not include the environmental cost which is being paid today," McNeely said.

The same thing has been happening with the coral reefs that also provided protection to the coast, he explained.

"When a tsunami comes in, it first hits the coral reef which slows it down, then it hits the mangroves which furthers slow it down. It may get through that but by then a lot of the energy has already been dissipated."

Conservationists in India and Srilanka and Thailand had warned that mangroves had tremendous value for conservation and to protect the coastline, McNeely said.

On the other hand, Sunday's quake would not have been a disaster for local wildlife still left in the affected areas, he added.

"Those living along the coast are seldom particularly rare, that's not a rare habitat, the mangroves are not particularly rich in species, the species that live there are used to typhoons, to storms and all that.

"Animals are smart enough to move."

More than 23,000 people were killed in India, Indonesia, Sri Lanka, Malaysia, the Maldives, Myanmar and Thailand as a result of the massive quake off the Indonesian island of Sumatra.

Many victims were European and other holidaymakers swept away when the waves hit beach resorts.

But the bulk of the dead were residents of coastal towns inundated by waves more than 10 metres high and fishermen living in flimsy housing along the shores of the Indian Ocean.


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To: Dallas59

Oh BS.


21 posted on 12/27/2004 4:28:04 PM PST by txhurl
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To: Dallas59

The list of donors for this organization says it all (notice that one donor is the US State Dept...):

http://www.iucn.org/about/donors.htm


22 posted on 12/27/2004 4:28:08 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (A Freep a day keeps the liberals away.)
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To: reg45

In the beginning the universe was created. This has made a lot of people angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.


23 posted on 12/27/2004 4:29:05 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: Dallas59
Maybe UNESCO's Intergovernmental Oceanographich Commission should have worked a little harder on the Tsunami warning system and spent a little less time/money on some other projects
24 posted on 12/27/2004 4:31:17 PM PST by syriacus (Who wanted Margaret Hassan murdered? What did she know about the oil-for-food scandal?)
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To: Spok

The immediate coastline is a dangerous place. Both storms and tsunami. To a degree it's simply bringing up an issue of personal responsibility. In this country we're still basically subsidizing people to live on the immediate coastline.


25 posted on 12/27/2004 4:33:07 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Dallas59

I'm speechless, no mention of Bush, no mention of Republicans, I can't believe we're not being blamed for this,,,,tick tick tick tick tick, just a matter of time before some dimwit dem decides to blame Repubs, what did blather have to say about this?


26 posted on 12/27/2004 4:34:46 PM PST by rockabyebaby (What goes around, comes around!)
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To: Dallas59

"I'm amazed...nothing about Bush or America...yet.."

It is amazing. I watched two network news shows tonight and neither one mentioned anything connecting this with Bush.


27 posted on 12/27/2004 4:36:32 PM PST by Rebelbase (Who is General Chat?)
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To: Dallas59
"What has also happened over the last several decades is that many mangroves have been cleared to grow shrimp ponds so that we, here in Europe, can have cheap shrimp," he added.

Ah HA!!!! The real reason for the tragedy!!!

I bet you Euro-weenies have been monkeying with the O-Zone, too.

And the global warming thing - just so you toads can have more shrimp. Tsk tsk. Shame on you.

And here we were thinking that GWB caused all of this.

Whew!

Schmucks.

LVM

28 posted on 12/27/2004 4:39:06 PM PST by LasVegasMac (Santa's sleigh is powered by an RYR motor.)
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To: freepatriot32
I live amongst the mangroves and I haven't seen the strand yet that could prevent a tsunami wave like that.
29 posted on 12/27/2004 4:39:46 PM PST by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First let's get rid of the UN and then the ACLU, or vice versa..)
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To: Dallas59

At least, he blamed European shrimp-eaters as the cause of the problem...


30 posted on 12/27/2004 4:39:57 PM PST by pointsal
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To: Dallas59

"...if we had only signed Kyoto."(wringing hands furiously while weeping aloud and nashing my teeth)


31 posted on 12/27/2004 4:40:29 PM PST by Rakkasan1 (Justice of the Piece: Hope IS on the way...)
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To: Dallas59

If the governments concerned had tsunami warning systems in place, thousands of lives could have been saved - I guess now they will try to blame America/Bush for not providing the money.


32 posted on 12/27/2004 4:41:39 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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The taxes at the coastal resorts must be sizable - but given the corruption of the officials little probably finds its way into anything that could have warned the coastal areas.


33 posted on 12/27/2004 4:43:21 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Dallas59
It's All Bush's Fault! Yadda, Yadda, Yadda.

34 posted on 12/27/2004 4:47:46 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Dallas59
I'm amazed...nothing about Bush or America...yet..

Well, it's still early.

35 posted on 12/27/2004 4:50:32 PM PST by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter & a sense that the world was mad.")
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To: Dallas59

Seems to be a fairly accurate assessment of the event.

Just like the idiots who live in the coastlines in S>E> USA knowing full well that a hurrican will destroy their homes every few years (then they want us to pay for their stupidity!)


36 posted on 12/27/2004 4:50:50 PM PST by steplock (http://www.outoftimeradio.org)
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To: syriacus
In 1991 a tsunami killed 138,000 people in Bangladesh.
37 posted on 12/27/2004 4:51:52 PM PST by syriacus (Who wanted Margaret Hassan murdered? What did she know about the oil-for-food scandal?)
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To: steplock

I am NOT refering to the fishermen of these countries, but the govts and others who knowingly build tourist attractions in disaster prone areas.

They are the one who cry the loudest at how much $$$ it cost them to re-build.

The fishermen know how to live with their environment - and they accept the risks that come with it.


38 posted on 12/27/2004 4:53:12 PM PST by steplock (http://www.outoftimeradio.org)
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To: Dallas59

Where income is absolutely dependent on foreign tourism...I don't think the indigenous human population was thinking about animals, reefs or other natural occurrences when they built "luxury" resorts.


39 posted on 12/27/2004 4:54:22 PM PST by Dallas59 ("A weak peace is worse than war" - Tacitcus)
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To: Dallas59

Let me guess, it's Bush's fault.


40 posted on 12/27/2004 4:57:59 PM PST by sandbar
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