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Bush faces GOP fight over guest workers
AP via Bakersfield.com ^ | 12/27/2004 | TOM RAUM

Posted on 12/27/2004 9:23:23 AM PST by calcowgirl

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To: Marine Inspector
I would like to see any information which claims alien ex-felons are released from jail and placed into parole or other.
141 posted on 12/27/2004 1:24:00 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Dane

That's quite a big paint brush you use, but that's to be expected from someone who can't really debate the issues at hand.

Good bye.


142 posted on 12/27/2004 1:24:13 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Ben Ficklin
The only way to prevent earned legalization is to support Bush's Guest Worker plan.

Good joke.

143 posted on 12/27/2004 1:25:19 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: ravingnutter
RE: We should be content to weed out the worst amongst them and provide this channel for those who merely want to support their families by doing an honest day's labor.

I agree (almost) totally. I do not think we need more laws for government and business to ignore to suit their self-interests, however. I've outlined how to do without new laws on other threads.

"merely want to support their families by doing an honest day's labor"

I am afraid that's something many are missing. Scores of ILLEGAL immigrants have normal jobs they are not criminals or rowdy day laborers. I've suggested how they could continue to do so without new laws. As others have suggested start by getting rid of the real criminals.

144 posted on 12/27/2004 1:26:29 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (MSM Fraudcasters are skid marks on journalism's clean shorts.)
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To: chris1
Why stop at evil capitalists? Why not deport tax-cheaters, freeway speeders, and jaywalkers, too? Let me know when you have repealed the Bill of Rights in the paleo quest to see that every law is diligently followed.
145 posted on 12/27/2004 1:26:58 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: TonyRo76
Ends do not justify the means. If the laws (and that includes borders) of our sovereign country don't mean anything, then what's left of our freedom?

Was goin back through the thread and missed your reply #77 as the usual one issue posse names on FR on this issue posted their usual, IMO, blast faxed replies. Sorry about the delay.

No the ends do not justify the means, just as LBJ's ending a guest worker program that actually worked was dismantled and brought about the problem we have now.

146 posted on 12/27/2004 1:33:10 PM PST by Dane (trial lawyers are the parasites to wealth creating society)
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To: Cultural Jihad
I would like to see any information which claims alien ex-felons are released from jail and placed into parole or other.

Have you not been reading the papers? ICE is currently looking for 300,000 aliens that did not show up for their deportation hearings. Many of those are felons. That’s why ICE and DHS have made them a priority.

The only time they get deported is if ICE knows they are in jail and informs the jail to tell ICE when they are to be released, so ICE can pick them up. There is currently no tracking system for illegal aliens in Local and State jails and prisons. It’s all hit or miss.

As I suspect you know, local and State jails don’t coordinate with ICE very well and ICE does not coordinate with anyone very well.

147 posted on 12/27/2004 1:36:11 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: bahblahbah
1) Wall up border

A combination of the Korean DMZ and Hadrian's Wall and of course the Israeli security fence would do the job.

148 posted on 12/27/2004 1:43:15 PM PST by Missouri
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To: Marine Inspector

The conventional wisdom at Free Republic is that if you start enough threads and keep them bumped up, Congress will deport the mexicans.


149 posted on 12/27/2004 1:43:46 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: calcowgirl

"The chance seems slim for finding common ground between those in favor of liberalized immigration laws - Bush, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger for example.."

The usual suspects.


150 posted on 12/27/2004 1:48:13 PM PST by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Marine Inspector
Many of those are felons.

I'd bet a lot of these illegal aliens who commit felonies have their sentences plea bargained down to a misdemeanor by liberal judges. Isn't that what happened in New York City a couple of years ago when that gang of illegals kidnapped and raped a woman. A couple of those illegals had run afoul of the law before but of course NYC has some kind of sanctuary policy involving illegal aliens.

151 posted on 12/27/2004 1:49:30 PM PST by Missouri
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To: Cultural Jihad
Dear Mr Illegal Alien Felon,

This is to inform you that your deportation hearing will be at 1pm, Tuesday next month, please be there.

Yours Truly Uncle Sam.

Pretty imprssive enforcement, huh? And did you know that local LE is PROHIBITED from inquiring into the immigration status of persons arrested for felonies? More impressive enforcement huh? Yup, the government is doing everything it can to catch and deport illegal alien felons.

153 posted on 12/27/2004 1:51:38 PM PST by jpsb
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To: Ben Ficklin
Its not what you prefer, its what the AFL-CIO and the growers prefer.

So thats it. Nobody else has any say in this matter. If true we ought to invite King George of England back to rule over us.

154 posted on 12/27/2004 1:54:33 PM PST by Missouri
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To: ALIPAC
Are you saying that if I wanted to view more immigration threads, I need to go to the blogger section or the personal section?

Somebody hold me back!

155 posted on 12/27/2004 1:57:09 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Missouri
"Nobody else has any say in this matter?"

Not even the President.

157 posted on 12/27/2004 2:10:05 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: ALIPAC

Everyone here sets their own preferences.


158 posted on 12/27/2004 2:12:09 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
"Nobody else has any say in this matter?"

Not even the President.

If true, doesn't this bother you ?

160 posted on 12/27/2004 2:27:40 PM PST by Missouri
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