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To: Hodar
Then, using your logic; ANYONE (Buddist, Wiccian, Muslim, Hindu, Satanic, Jewish, et. al) can sue to prevent ANY class from presenting ANY work that some may find offensive.

You sound like one of these ACLU types who sues for the right of the Nazis to march in Skokie, on free-speech grounds, and then turns around to remove Christian plaques or displays which have been around for decades, because one or two athiests are "offended", all on the grounds of a mythological "separation of Church and State" not mentioned in the Consitution. It's funny how their standards change according to whether Judaism/Christianity is being promoted, or not.

Hint: Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence, and wasn't at the Constitutional Convention.
If you are actually concerned about promoting freedom of conscience in religious matters, why don't you look into systematic rape, murder, and human slavery practiced in the Sudan? I haven't noticed many Christians lately webcasting videos of Muslims or Falun Gong adherents having their heads sawn off with a dull knife, while chanting "Merry Christmas! We celebrate the birth of the Prince of Peace!" lately, either.
You "open-minded" types would have a lot more credibility if you were being martyred by Communists and Muslims, like the Christians and Jews are, instead of just jacking off in public in friendly, left-wing settings like the Universities.

Merry Christmas, Troll.
And a proactive Happy Easter!

37 posted on 12/25/2004 4:41:33 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

My, my, my ... all this nastiness from a Christian on Christmas. For shame, perhaps instead of reading into a post things that are NOT there, you should read the post for exactly what words are chosen. I said exactly what I said, not mentioning Jefferson, the Declaration of Independance, Islam, systemmatic rape and the whole 'Christmasie bag of good cheer you brought to the party'.

My point is, and remains that lawsuits to PREVENT a topic from being discussed is the anti-thesis to learning. No one has the 'right' to forbid a entire class from discussing a aspect of the class, simply because it offends his moral compass; my response is to either withdraw from the class, or actually take the time to read the material. The college courses do not require your belief, only your understanding. I do not have to agree with Renold's rules regarding electo-magnetics, I don't have to believe in them at all, but one must understand them. That is called learning. I can learn about Islam, without being a Muslum; much as you can learn about Christianity without understanding the basic precepts.

You see, I attended and graduated from college. Judging from your spew of hate and sewage, you did not.

I have little use for the ALCU, Nazi's and marches into Jewish areas. Where you connected the aspect of 'learning' and Nazi-war crimes is beyond me. Perhaps you have a few issues you need to work out.

Merry Christmas, and do try to be a little civil. It's hard to debate with a rude lunatic.


39 posted on 12/25/2004 4:53:34 PM PST by Hodar (With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: grey_whiskers

"You sound like one of these ACLU types who sues for the right of the Nazis to march in Skokie, on free-speech grounds, and then turns around to remove Christian plaques or displays which have been around for decades,..."

Exceptional response to that pinhead.


45 posted on 12/25/2004 7:30:59 PM PST by Chu Gary (USN Intel guy 1967 - 1970)
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To: grey_whiskers
It's not good when anyone does it. Say in English Depts, if students sue everytime some reading is offensive you'd have a non stop litany of lawsuits. Things written throughout history are offensive. It's a fact of life. You can't ignore it.
46 posted on 12/25/2004 7:38:49 PM PST by Borges
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