Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

AP on its Iraqi photographers and insurgents
Poynter Online ^ | 12/23/2004 | Jack Stokes

Posted on 12/25/2004 6:20:56 AM PST by RippleFire

From JACK STOKES, director of media relations, Associated Press: [This is a solicited letter regarding Salon's "The Associated Press 'insurgency.'"] Several brave Iraqi photographers work for The Associated Press in places that only Iraqis can cover. Many are covering the communities they live in where family and tribal relations give them access that would not be available to Western photographers, or even Iraqi photographers who are not from the area.

Insurgents want their stories told as much as other people and some are willing to let Iraqi photographers take their pictures. It's important to note, though, that the photographers are not "embedded" with the insurgents. They do not have to swear allegiance or otherwise join up philosophically with them just to take their pictures.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ap; associatedpress; embeddedterrorists; fifthcolumn; treason; usefulidiots
Offered without comment from the Twilight Zone. Next up, a trip down Memory Lane with Lord Haw Haw on the BBC and Tokyo Rose with Edward R. Murrow.
1 posted on 12/25/2004 6:20:56 AM PST by RippleFire
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: RippleFire
some are willing to let Iraqi photographers take their pictures

Yeah, I'm sure shy away from publicity. Sheesh these people are either naive, ignorant, or Satan's minions. Guess what I think.
2 posted on 12/25/2004 6:25:35 AM PST by visualops (It's easier to build a child than repair an adult.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RippleFire
On the discussion at Belmont Club (another fine site), poster Doug observes
How can anyone believe the mainstream media anymore? But these allegations about the Associated Press are even worse. If true--and I don't, of course, know that they are--they mean that people working with that news agency are embedded with the "insurgents," that they are participating in murder, aiding and abetting it. The Associated Press owes us full disclosure and a full explanation in both these instances. Just like CBS, their perceived integrity and their business depends on our trust. Saying accusations are "ridiculous," but providing no facts only makes us more suspicious.
I would go further: What did AP PAY for these exclusive photos? Is AP money going to terrorists?

Has AP committed an overt act which gave "aid and comfort to the enemy"?

3 posted on 12/25/2004 6:32:29 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (We are going to fight until hell freezes over and then we are going to fight on the ice)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RippleFire
Insurgents want their stories told as much as other people

more like,

"We at the AP want the terrorists to win, so we plan with them,standby and film while they kill innocent people, then we rush out the pictures to try and convince people that the terrorists are winning."

4 posted on 12/25/2004 6:42:02 AM PST by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve to keep us free)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RippleFire

5 posted on 12/25/2004 6:42:04 AM PST by Nick Danger (Want some wood?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RippleFire

So did the Nazis. People who helped them tell it were tried for treason.

6 posted on 12/25/2004 6:45:23 AM PST by Nick Danger (Want some wood?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RippleFire

I went to Salon to read the article. I like the way they dance around the subject of AP photogs getting advance warning of terrorist activity.


7 posted on 12/25/2004 6:49:15 AM PST by randog (What the....?!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RippleFire
...It's important to note, though, that the photographers are not "embedded" with the insurgents. They do not have to swear allegiance or otherwise join up philosophically with them ...

Yeah, right.

I'm sure the photogs say to the terrorists "I really am for the US but can I take your picture anyway?"

8 posted on 12/25/2004 7:00:48 AM PST by FReepaholic (Proud FReeper since 1998. Proud monthly donor.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: randog
I went to Salon to read the article

I'd go too, but Salon makes me feel dirty. It also increases their pings. Next time anyone goes, record some of the advertisers so we can call 'em and ask why they support such scum.

9 posted on 12/25/2004 7:01:10 AM PST by Drango (Those who advocate robbing (taxing) Peter to pay Paul...will always have the support of Paul.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: tscislaw

Stop dancing around the facts, AP is paying the terrorists for videos shot by terrorist photographers.
The AP knows it and they pay them anyway , AP is no better than a terrosist organisation themselves.


10 posted on 12/25/2004 7:06:27 AM PST by sgtbono2002
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: SauronOfMordor

AP certainly is on the side of the jihadists and the peacenicks.

This week in DC, the DC Chapter gave a press conference. Earlier the same day, the Code Pinkos and ReDefeatBush.com gave a press conference in the same location.

Guess which ones the AP decided to cover and which ones they didn't?


11 posted on 12/25/2004 7:14:17 AM PST by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: RippleFire

Yeah, right, a "Brave Iraqi" photographer who was an accessory to murder. As was AP by publishing the snuff film. I find the entire thing repulsive.


12 posted on 12/25/2004 7:23:02 AM PST by McGavin999 (Senate is trying to cover their A$$es with Rumsfeld hide)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SauronOfMordor
Has AP committed an overt act which gave "aid and comfort to the enemy"?

Well, it wouldn't be the first time.

CENTCOM NEWS RELEASE
HEADQUARTERS UNITED STATES CENTRAL COMMAND
7115 South Boundary Boulevard
MacDill AFB, Fla. 33621-5101
Phone: (813) 827-5894; FAX: (813) 827-2211; DSN 651-5894

June 3, 2004
Release Number: 04-06-09


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE


COALITION SOLDIERS QUESTION NEWS MEDIA FOLLOWING ROADSIDE BOMB

MOSUL, Iraq - Coalition soldiers questioned two news media cameramen and a reporter after a roadside bomb exploded near a Coalition convoy two kilometers north of Mosul June 3.

The media, who were at the scene prior to the attack, told soldiers at the scene they had received a tip to be at that location prior to the attack and they had witnessed the explosion.

There was minimal damage to a Coalition vehicle, a cracked windshield, and no serious injuries.

3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division soldiers requested the media accompany them to a base camp in Mosul to answer questions as witnesses to the incident. The news media representatives left the base camp in the mid afternoon.

-30-


13 posted on 12/25/2004 7:28:51 AM PST by soldierette
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: RippleFire
Insurgents want their stories told as much as other people

Right off the bat you can see the amazing bias of AP.

These are not insurgents. These are terrorists, murderers.

Insurgents would not target their own people, target innocent civilians, target woman and children.

Add to this the fact that the majority of these so called insurgents are actually non-Iraqis and the entire AP excuse goes down the drain.

AP should now be called what it is: AAP Anti-American Propaganda (or Anti-American Puke, take your pick).

14 posted on 12/25/2004 7:35:10 AM PST by technomage
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RippleFire
AP's "Journalistic Standard" = By Any Means Necessary.

Remember Peter Jennings and Mike Wallace at that famous "Journalism Conference" where the journalistic standard was NOT to warn the American patrol that they were about to walk into an ambush?

The left wing media wants Iraq to look like Vietnam, so I say bring back a staple of Vietnam reporting, Fragging, but this time, frag the reporters.

15 posted on 12/25/2004 7:44:15 AM PST by Doctor Raoul ( ----- HERTZ: We're #1 ----- AVIS: We're #2 We Try Harder ----- CBS: We're #3 We LIE Harder)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RippleFire
Not that I expect it to do any good, but I emailed Mr. J. Stokes of the AP my opinion of their reporting.
16 posted on 12/25/2004 8:16:04 AM PST by momf ( Immigrant =came the correct way; IIlegal = criminal)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Drango
Salon makes me feel dirty.

The reason I've never been there and will never go. I get enough Salon in my local newspaper (Bangor Daily News) (Maine).

17 posted on 12/25/2004 8:33:03 AM PST by Tom Bombadil
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: soldierette

So this could get simple. See an AP photographer and assume there is an attack on the way. In fact, check to see if the "AP employee" is really the terrorist.


18 posted on 12/25/2004 8:36:37 AM PST by Bernard (Caution Ahead - Road being Paved with Good Intentions)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: RippleFire

AP Admits Relationship With Terrorists

We have written a couple of times about the accusations of complicity with terrorists in Iraq which were made recently by Belmont Club and others. The issue relates to the shocking photo, recently published by the AP, showing three terrorists in the act of murdering two Iraqi election workers on a street during daylight. The photographer was obviously within a few yards of the scene of the murder, which raises obvious questions, such as 1) what was the photographer doing there; did he have advance knowledge of the crime, or was he even accompanying the terrorists? and 2) why did the photographer apparently have no fear of the terrorists, or conversely, why were the terrorists evidently unconcerned about being photographed in the commission of a murder?

Salon printed a defense of the AP (and an attack on conservative bloggers) that included this anonymous comment from an AP spokesman:

A source at the Associated Press knowledgeable about the events covered in Baghdad on Sunday told Salon that accusations that the photographer was aware of the militants' plans are "ridiculous." The photographer, whose identity the AP is withholding due to safety concerns, was likely "tipped off to a demonstration that was supposed to take place on Haifa Street," said the AP source, who was not at liberty to comment by name. But the photographer "definitely would not have had foreknowledge" of a violent event like an execution, the source said.

So the AP admitted that its photographer was "tipped off" by the terrorists. The only quibble asserted by the AP was that the photographer expected only a "demonstration," not a murder. So the terrorists wanted to be photographed carrying out the murder, to sow more terror in Iraq and to demoralize American voters. That's why they tipped off the photographer, and that's why they dragged the two election workers from their car, so they could be shot in front of the AP's obliging camera. And the AP was happy to cooperate with the terrorists in all respects. We'd like to ask some more questions of the photographer, of course, but that's impossible since the AP won't identify him because of "safety concerns." Really? Who would endanger his safety? The terrorists? They could have shot him on Sunday if they were unhappy about having their picture taken. But they weren't, which is why they "tipped off" the photographer. Belmont Club responded to the Salon defense here, in a post we linked to a day or two ago.

Now there's more: Jim Romanesko got an email from another AP spokesman, this time Jack Stokes, the AP's director of media relations. Here it is:

Several brave Iraqi photographers work for The Associated Press in places that only Iraqis can cover. Many are covering the communities they live in where family and tribal relations give them access that would not be available to Western photographers, or even Iraqi photographers who are not from the area.

Insurgents want their stories told as much as other people and some are willing to let Iraqi photographers take their pictures. It's important to note, though, that the photographers are not "embedded" with the insurgents. They do not have to swear allegiance or otherwise join up philosophically with them just to take their pictures.

That makes the admission pretty well complete, I think. The AP is using photographers who have relationships with the terrorists; this is for the purpose of helping to tell the terrorists' "stories." The photographers don't have to swear allegiance to the terrorists--gosh, that's reassuring--but they have "family and tribal relations" with them. And they aren't embedded--I'm not sure I believe that--but they don't need to be either, since the terrorists tip them off when they are about to commit an act that they want filmed.

Am I missing something, or has the AP now admitted everything it was charged with by Wretchard?

Posted by Hindrocket at 03:24 PM | Permalink | TrackBack (1)

19 posted on 12/25/2004 2:07:58 PM PST by snopercod (Bigger government means clinton won. Less freedom means Osama won. Get it?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: snopercod
Insurgents want their stories told as much as other people and some are willing to let Iraqi photographers take their pictures.

And, if AP is going to actively help them "tell their story", then AP is no more credible than al-Jazeera.

Amazing that Stokes doesn't seem to realize the import of what he said. The AP should be invited to move their headquarters to Qatar.

20 posted on 12/25/2004 2:20:19 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson