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Analysts: Bin Laden seeks transformation
Boston Globe ^ | 12/24/04 | Salah Nasrawi, AP

Posted on 12/24/2004 2:03:05 AM PST by kattracks

CAIRO, Egypt -- Osama bin Laden appears to be trying to transform himself from terrorist to political leader, the conclusion reached by some Middle Eastern experts from watching recent messages attributed to the al-Qaida leader. But at least one of those experts questions whether bin Laden has anything to offer his followers beyond a call to arms, saying he does not have solutions to the economic and social issues facing young Muslims.

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While some analysts say al-Qaida has been forced to change course because it has been weakened and possibly shattered by a U.S. crackdown, others believe that any shifting by bin Laden is only temporary and tactical.

"His goal is to build an Islamic state and his means will remain holy war," said Saudi writer Mshari al-Thaydi, who has been monitoring Islamic radical groups for years. "He does not know any other means to make his point."

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Al-Thaydi said bin Laden's focus on Saudi Arabia in the recent message attributed to him showed that he intended to step up al-Qaida's terrorist activities in his homeland with the ultimate goal of toppling the monarchy and assuming power.

"Osama thinks if he takes over Saudi Arabia he can topple all other Islamic regimes," al-Thaydi said.

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"They can stir opposition but they cannot rule and be in power," he said, adding that if bin Laden were trying to present a new image, it was an acknowledgment of bankruptcy.

"Practically speaking, his enterprise has failed. He has nothing to offer Muslims but increasing their frustration. Young Muslims want meaningful things," he said.

For example, Muslims face issues of poverty, unemployment and greater rights for women.

"There is no endless holy war," al Sayed said. "Holy war must have a goal. So what is its goal now?"


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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaedastrategy; binladen; holywar; osama; overthrow; saudiarabia
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1 posted on 12/24/2004 2:03:05 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
"Holy war must have a goal. So what is its goal now?"

let's see now, the destruction of Israel, a grand Muslim caliphate stretching from Spain and Morocco all the way to Indonesia and of course, death to all infidels. Can any 'jihadi' tell me if I'm anywhere near right?

2 posted on 12/24/2004 2:05:38 AM PST by William of Orange (Does anybody know what time it is? Time to bomb Saddam!)
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To: kattracks
He can transform himself into anything he wishes. However, as soon as he pokes his head out of whatever hole he is hiding in, the US military is going to transform him into a pale-pink mist.
3 posted on 12/24/2004 2:07:15 AM PST by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: kattracks
"He does not know any other means to make his point."

Hey, Osama! An office on K St. before 9-11? Works for everyone else.

4 posted on 12/24/2004 2:08:46 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: kattracks
Oh let him come out of hiding, transform himself into anything he wants and the first chance we get, drop him like a couple of 103 story buildings.
5 posted on 12/24/2004 2:35:48 AM PST by Oreo Kookey (How, indeed, do we click our tongues at beheadings and look the other way from abortion? I weep.)
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To: clee1

I like your rendition better than mine. (#5)


6 posted on 12/24/2004 2:37:43 AM PST by Oreo Kookey (How, indeed, do we click our tongues at beheadings and look the other way from abortion? I weep.)
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To: clee1

Works for me. Can I be the first in line?


7 posted on 12/24/2004 2:40:04 AM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: kattracks

A turd by any other name...


8 posted on 12/24/2004 2:41:12 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: clee1

ROTFLMAO


9 posted on 12/24/2004 2:46:24 AM PST by tom paine 2
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
Bin Laden seeks transformation

Yeah he wants to truly become like Ra's Al Ghul, complete with Lazarus Pit: virtually immortal.

 

(Ra's Al Ghul from the comics on left; actor Ken Watanabe as Ra's Al Ghul (which literally translates as "The Death's Head" in next summer's "Batman Begins" on right)

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

10 posted on 12/24/2004 2:56:01 AM PST by mhking
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To: kattracks
"Osama thinks if he takes over Saudi Arabia he can topple all other Islamic regimes," al-Thaydi said.

So, he's pretty much Hitler.

12 posted on 12/24/2004 2:59:18 AM PST by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: William of Orange
let's see now, the destruction of Israel, a grand Muslim caliphate stretching from Spain and Morocco all the way to Indonesia and of course, death to all infidels. Can any 'jihadi' tell me if I'm anywhere near right?

Don't knock it! Thats how Arafat got promoted from blood thirsty terrorist to respected U.N. supported statesman!

13 posted on 12/24/2004 3:33:17 AM PST by Bommer
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To: Lazamataz
So, he's pretty much Hitler.

No, Bin Laden is a coward like every other Islamic Fundamentalist on this planet.

The coward label is the image we need to keep using when dealing with these folks. (Of course, keep killing them as well) Convincing the world that these snakes are really cowards takes away any threatening power they might have.

14 posted on 12/24/2004 3:42:03 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (9-11 is your Peace Dividend)
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To: kattracks

"Holy war must have a goal. So what is its goal now?"

Since most of the middle east was christian before these butchers came along, why doesn't OBL have a goal of getting the @#$% out of the entire middle east and turning it over to christians???


15 posted on 12/24/2004 3:46:51 AM PST by tkathy (Ban all religious head garb.)
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To: kattracks

Having Osama "morph" into something besides a terrorist would be a pretty good trick, considering that he's probably not alive. I haven't believed any of the audio or video tapes that have come out over the past three years. In the last credible one, dated December 2001, he looked awful, like they had to shove a broomstick up the back of his robe to keep him from falling over.

For that matter, if Osama didn't die in the aftermath of Tora Bora, we should be able to catch him, once we find the studio that's producing the tapes!


16 posted on 12/24/2004 4:01:39 AM PST by Berosus
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To: kattracks

Get ready for a stomach churning blaspheme.


17 posted on 12/24/2004 4:55:04 AM PST by marty60
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To: kattracks

Bin Laden may mistakenigly beleive that the world will embrace another Arafat....


18 posted on 12/24/2004 4:56:19 AM PST by Jumper
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To: kattracks
Israelis may have had some reasons, none of them good, for letting Arafat make his "transformation" which was fake at best.

America will never let OBL get the chance. Dead or alive.

19 posted on 12/24/2004 5:16:55 AM PST by Feckless
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