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Updated: 09:41 PM EST
Police Kill Marine After He Killed Officer
CERES, Calif. (Jan. 14) - A young Marine whose family said he feared returning to Iraq was killed by police after he shot and killed an officer and wounded another, and authorities said they are investigating the case as a "suicide by cop.''
The Marine, 19-year-old Andres Raya, was killed Sunday after he initiated a second gunfight with police as they pursued him for the earlier shooting, authorities said.
"By the statements the suspect made at the scene, it was clear he wanted to die and take as many cops down as he could in the process,'' Lt. Bill Heyne, lead investigator for the Stanislaus County Sheriff's Department, told the San Francisco Chronicle. "This officer was executed.''
Ceres Police Sgt. Howard Stevenson, 39, died from multiple gun shots Sunday evening in a gunfight outside a convenience store. The second officer, Sam Ryno, 50, was shot several times and was in stable condition Friday at a hospital.
Rata was later shot down in an alley after a second confrontation with officers who had converged on the scene.
Raya joined the Marines after high school graduation and had served one tour in Iraq, according to officials at Camp Pendleton, where he was based. He was supposed to have reported for duty back at Pendleton on Sunday after a holiday leave. Marine Corps officials said his unit was not scheduled for an immediate return to Iraq.
His family and friends said something seemed to have happened to Raya when he was in Iraq.
Though he spoke little about it during the holidays, Raya eventually told his parents "'I just don't want to go back','' his mother, Julia, told KPIX-TV. She said they hugged him and tried to give him the best Christmas they could.
One Marine who met Raya in Iraq, Lance Cpl. Sarah Carroll, told the Modesto Bee that at one point Raya said his morning supply convoy had gone over a roadside bomb.
"(Raya) said the convoy had one fatality and said how upset he was that it was the other guy and not him,'' Carroll said. ``It seemed like an odd comment, because I didn't get the impression that he knew the guy or had been close to the bomb.''
01/14/05 14:41 EST
Yup. Wonder if I should use the balsamic or the apple cider.
http://forums.gawaher.com/index.php?s=b2aa4eaa445dfc9df1e5aa201b21c109&showtopic=1365
Marine's gang ties revealed
Raya was in Norteño gang, police say, had armor-piercing bullets
Lt. Bill Heyne says a safe owned by Andres Raya hid gang items, including this book by an imprisoned Nuestra Familia member.
Last Updated: January 15, 2005, 05:49:23 AM PST
CERES The 19-year-old Marine who gunned down two police officers was a Norteño gang member who plotted a deadly attack on police, not a veteran suffering the stress of war, investigators said Friday.
http://www.modbee.com/local/story/9773943p-10637155c.html
Jihad, Whos up for it?
MedinaMuniwara Yesterday, 11:41 PM Post #1
Mujahideen Fee Sabililah!
Group: Senior Members
Posts: 2362
Joined: 12-June 04
From: Toronto, Canada
Member No.: 7014
Are you planning to participate in Jihad to do service to Allah's Religion?
Tell us how you will go about doing this.
For me personally, I wanna get a basic job and save up money (About $35 grand CDN)...and go to Iran to get military training at the same time educating myself in deen and memorizing Quran. Because it's taqwa and niyyah that would get me accepted by Allah and assist me in Jihad. Then after completing the training in Iran I will go to Chechnya to assist the Mujahideen there.
Prior to all that, I guess I'd need to take Arabic and Russian lessons.
Probably end up marrying some chechen or russian there too.
What about you guys?
http://forums.gawaher.com/index.php?s=330e2f663afaceb960e53088c23aea90&showtopic=6464
"According to the FN web site, the weapon is not available to the public. It is for Government and Law Enforcement purchase only."
Yep.
"Also, for everyone that contributes and helps put these threads out, thank you."
Thanks Marine Inspector. It's quite a team effort continuing these threads. nwctwx puts together the header for the threads and we take it from there.
I hope he gets well soon.
Oh, absolutely.
So the question is whether the index case(s) would necessarily be known - clearly they would if they'd sought and obtained medical help, but I suppose it's barely possible that they'd be missed if they hadn't done so or had been unable to find trained help. So if it's happend we should now be looking at the second generation cases - which presumably would be a much larger cohort and would be hard to miss. So we should know pretty soon I would think if something like this happened.
The other problem with the story is that smallpox does not make a particularly good weapon - it's likely to harm the country or group that spreads it as much or more as the target country. That's especially true when the intended target would be the First World countries like the US and Western Europe - they might be able to vaccinate enough of their citizens to contain the outbreak within their borders, but the Arab world for example would largely be helpless. This is not something that would be unknown to the terrorists, and it would not be a result that they'd want to risk. So it's hard to imagine how a terrorist group would want to use smallpox except possibly as a "doomsday" weapon so that "If we can't win, we'll just make sure that NOBODY can win."
The other possibility of course is that an ordinary medical lab had smallpox samples left over from when it was endemic world-wide, which is more plausible ... these stocks are supposed to have been destroyed, but what if some of it in some out-of-the-way place had been overlooked? That's been one of the nightmare scenarios that's concerned quite a few epidemiologists for some years now.
from Google:
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tucker
... following year. You can still visit the site of Tucker's factory - it's
the Ford City Mall on Cicero Avenue in Chicago. He began ...
longgandhi.com/tucker.html - 9k - Cached - Similar pages
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1321520/posts
"FBI Keeping Records on Pre-9/11 Travelers"
My Way News ^ | 1/14/05 | LESLIE MILLER/AP
Posted on 01/15/2005 12:41:51 PM PST by wagglebee
http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/interapp/press_release/press_release_0596.xml
Press Releases
"Remarks by Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge at the European Policy Centre"
For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
202-282-8010
Brussels
January 13, 2005
http://www.cia.gov/nic/NIC_2020_project.html
"MAPPING THE GLOBAL FUTURE:
REPORT OF THE NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE COUNCIL'S 2020 PROJECT"
WORTH REPEATING...
Note: The following text is an exact quote:
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http://www.dea.gov/pubs/pressrel/pr122004.html
News Release
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
December 20, 2004
Multi-Million Dollar Reward Offered for the Capture of Joaquin "Chap" Guzman
DEC 20--The Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) today announced up to a $5,000,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and prosecution of Joaquin Guzman-Loera, a.k.a. Chapo Guzman.
Guzman-Loera is wanted in the Southern District of California for conspiracy to import cocaine, possession of cocaine with intent to distribute, money laundering and criminal forfeiture. The reward is offered through the United States State Department, Bureau for International Narcotics and Law Enforcement Affairs.
In the 1980s, Guzman-Loera was associated with Miguel Angel Felix-Gallardo, a.k.a. El Padrino, head of the most powerful drug trafficking group in Mexico at that time. He left the El Padrino organization and soon gained notoriety as the head of his own international criminal enterprise.
Guzman-Loera is known for his use of a sophisticated tunnel located in Douglas, Arizona to smuggle cocaine from Mexico into the United States in the early 1990s. In 1993, a 7.3 ton load of his cocaine, concealed in cans of chili peppers, destined for the United States was seized in Tecate, Baja California Norte, Mexico.
In May of that year, members of the rival Arellano-Felix Organization coordinated a failed attempt to assassinate Guzman-Loera in Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico, which resulted in the much publicized murder of the prominent Catholic Cardinal Jan Jesus Posadas-Ocampo.
At about the same time, an even more sophisticated tunnel that stretched from Tijuana, Baja California Norte, Mexico to the Otay Mesa, California area was discovered. The following month, Guzman-Loera was arrested in Mexico on homicide and drug charges. In January 2001, he escaped from a maximum security prison located in Mexico and quickly regained full control of his internationally-based drug trafficking organization, which he still controls today.
The arrest warrant for Guzman-Loera is based on a Federal indictment and stems from a case DEAs San Diego office worked on with the United States Attorneys Office and United States Marshals Service.
Joaquin Chapo Guzman-Loera remains at large. Anyone with information about the whereabouts and activities of Chapo Guzman should call the toll-free DEA Hotline at 1-866-294-0820 (in the USA) or 001-866-294-0820 (Mexico, Central America, and South America) or send an email to chapotips@usdoj.gov.
Is that him?
I think so ... it came up on a Google search, from a Portuguese site.
Thanks.
I saw a couple of Mexican sites discussing him, too.
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