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To: Ernie.cal
"The same sex unit is not as stable" as "married hetero couples"? How do we know that? Wouldn't we have to first permit legalized same-sex marriage and study the results over time to see if the "stability" is demonstrably different from hetero couples?

And what if the empirical evidence revealed that gay marriages were MORE stable than hetero marriages? You would still be opposed to same-sex marriages, right?

The extremely well-known and well-documented homosexual promiscuity with all the attendant disease-spreading consequences puts the lie to your conjecture. In addition, what would be the point of your proposed societal experiment if the results were shown to be disastrous for American life--would you then say, "Oh, well, too bad, I guess we were wrong" after the destruction?

185 posted on 12/23/2004 9:10:29 AM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Judith Anne

I don't believe it is within the scope of being liberal to admit being wrong.


187 posted on 12/23/2004 9:12:23 AM PST by westmichman (Pray for global warming. (Thank GOD for the red states))
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To: Judith Anne

I think you changed the subject on me. We were talking about whether or not same-sex couples would have relationships that were more or less stable (or equally as stable) as straight couples.

Here's my point Judith (and incidentally, I am not hostile to women as you previously suggested---I didn't "pick" you for my previous comment about hostility revealed in some messages---yours was just the next message in the queue and I decided to add comments)....

Back to my point though: Some of the messages posted have raised legitimate questions. I do not have answers to all those questions. I am interested in fostering a discussion however.

But, just for the sake of argument, suppose I DID have definitive and reasonable answers. In my judgment, most of the folks engaged in this discussion would STILL be opposed to same-sex marriage. In other words, their opposition is NOT based upon the points they are raising. Their REAL concern is NOT (for example) whether or not two brothers or sisters might marry OR a Dad-son OR two guys in military OR any of the other hypothetical nightmare scenarios.

Consequently, it would be helpful if they would just candidly say what they mean.

The fastest way to get to the REAL point is for someone to answer my previous comment -- which I repeat here:

"I am curious, however, about what role within our society these folks think is acceptable for gay men and women? Should gays be allowed to vote? Should gays be allowed to achieve prominence in their professions? Should gays be allowed to receive awards and public recognition? Aren't all of these things "an offense to God" from their point of view?"


202 posted on 12/23/2004 9:21:36 AM PST by Ernie.cal
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