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To: Judith Anne

I think you changed the subject on me. We were talking about whether or not same-sex couples would have relationships that were more or less stable (or equally as stable) as straight couples.

Here's my point Judith (and incidentally, I am not hostile to women as you previously suggested---I didn't "pick" you for my previous comment about hostility revealed in some messages---yours was just the next message in the queue and I decided to add comments)....

Back to my point though: Some of the messages posted have raised legitimate questions. I do not have answers to all those questions. I am interested in fostering a discussion however.

But, just for the sake of argument, suppose I DID have definitive and reasonable answers. In my judgment, most of the folks engaged in this discussion would STILL be opposed to same-sex marriage. In other words, their opposition is NOT based upon the points they are raising. Their REAL concern is NOT (for example) whether or not two brothers or sisters might marry OR a Dad-son OR two guys in military OR any of the other hypothetical nightmare scenarios.

Consequently, it would be helpful if they would just candidly say what they mean.

The fastest way to get to the REAL point is for someone to answer my previous comment -- which I repeat here:

"I am curious, however, about what role within our society these folks think is acceptable for gay men and women? Should gays be allowed to vote? Should gays be allowed to achieve prominence in their professions? Should gays be allowed to receive awards and public recognition? Aren't all of these things "an offense to God" from their point of view?"


202 posted on 12/23/2004 9:21:36 AM PST by Ernie.cal
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To: Ernie.cal
"I am curious, however, about what role within our society these folks think is acceptable for gay men and women? Should gays be allowed to vote? Should gays be allowed to achieve prominence in their professions? Should gays be allowed to receive awards and public recognition? Aren't all of these things "an offense to God" from their point of view?"

Straw man argument, Ernie. All those things are NOT related to the basic fabric of society, family life: a marriage between a man and woman producing children and raising them together.

I note that the aggressive homosexual agenda isn't out there on the streets proposing they get more awards or be allowed to seek prominence in their chosen profession. The agenda is to change the basic fabric of American life. Not highly likely to happen, in my opinion.

And there are a number of questions here on this thread that you have not bothered to answer, particularly the ones pertaining to poor health and promiscuity, both clear concommitants to homosexual behavior. I imagine that would tend to adversely affect any stable homosexual marriage prospects, but I don't know that for sure. Maybe homosexuals aren't bothered by the prospect of marrying a promiscuous partner.

Now, you can continue to insist that other people answer your (supposedly disinterested) questions while refusing to answer theirs, but it's not a good idea. I personally think you're a troll. Others may disagree.

220 posted on 12/23/2004 9:33:52 AM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Ernie.cal
"I am curious, however, about what role within our society these folks think is acceptable for gay men and women? Should gays be allowed to vote? Should gays be allowed to achieve prominence in their professions? Should gays be allowed to receive awards and public recognition? Aren't all of these things "an offense to God" from their point of view?"





Now you're just being ridiculous! Their role is anything they want it to be, just leave your personal lives at home. They don't belong in public, at work, or on the television. Gays already had acceptance. What their activism and attacks have caused in a lot of cases is to undermining that acceptance. AGAIN, do whatever you want, but we won't accept public or government endorsement.
421 posted on 12/23/2004 4:13:24 PM PST by gidget7 (God Bless America, and our President George W. Bush)
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