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The REAL "gay bashing" "domestic violence is as serious a problem for Gays as hate crimes".
Fathers for Life ^ | 1998 | (several)

Posted on 12/23/2004 3:55:48 AM PST by dzzrtrock

...Susan Holt, program coordinator for domestic violence services at the L.A. Gay and Lesbian Center, said, "When we’re looking at the difference between the two reports, it really is true" that domestic violence is as serious a problem for Gays as hate crimes.

"The fact is, Gay men and Lesbians are more likely to be injured by an intimate partner than a stranger," Holt said....

(Excerpt) Read more at fathersforlife.org ...


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To: SkyPilot

I have,somewhere, a copy of the professional article on
homosexuals who die younger. The author has been villified
for years-but his research has Never been disproven.
My only son was convinced by th epublic school system to
"try it" homosexual behavior and "decide for himself" and
they promised to help him with his family. His sisters were
not encouraged to try lesbianism-neither were they protected by the school-But the school wa sonly following
national policy. Now I have a son convinced he cannot change
his "sexual Orientation" Even wrote a paper at Tec school on
that subject. The schools accept such out of fear of that
powerful political movement-aided by the ACLU. but my GOD is greater.eithe rmy son will repent and be restored or will
bring upon himself his own reward.


41 posted on 12/23/2004 7:11:35 AM PST by StonyBurk
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To: Grampa Dave
My first heads up re the gay violence on gays came during the BS release of how women were beaten up during Bowl Games and the Super Bowls. Every ER doc and RN that I knew said that was BS. The real violence they saw on holidays and those days for the most part came from Gay on Gay violence. Now that data is being released.

Just to highlight part of what you said:

The Super Bowl Domestic Violence Myth is not even a myth. It was a vile lie deliberately created and perpetuated by feminist Lenore Walker. It has been debunked many times over.

There is NO higher incidence of domestic violence during Super Bowl games than at any other time of the year.

42 posted on 12/23/2004 7:17:22 AM PST by An American In Dairyland (I pledege allegiance to this flag and if that bothers you, well that's too bad.)
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To: ArGee

...and get cured. Next, you can cure all the Palestinians and make them Jews. Great idea...Shalom


43 posted on 12/23/2004 7:17:59 AM PST by johnnycap
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To: johnnycap

It would never change the self loathing factor since it will always be using a human body against design. If society accepts crack cocain use that will not change the destructive behavior. (a rose by any other name ...)

Only really sick parents would encourage homosexual behavior in children.


44 posted on 12/23/2004 7:27:37 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: johnnycap
If society didn't hate homosexuals so much, would their self-loathing be as deep and therefore, would the manifestation of domestic violence be reduced in incidence?"

It's society's fault, it's society's fault, Whaaa.

Give me a break, it is disordered thinking, disordered living that is responsible.

45 posted on 12/23/2004 7:41:37 AM PST by Valpal1 (The constitution is going to be amended, the only question is by whom?)
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To: StonyBurk
I'll pray for your son. And you are right, God is greater than the darkness.

Homosexuality is an addiction. I spoke to a minister who was involved with Addiction Ministries for 20 years. He said there were 3 afflictions he had dealt with that only the power of God was able to heal:

1. Addictions to Drugs and Alcohol

2. Guilt from Abortions

3. Slavery to Homosexuality

47 posted on 12/23/2004 8:04:16 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: dzzrtrock
"The fact is, Gay men and Lesbians are more likely to be injured by an intimate partner than a stranger," Holt said....

My b-i-l is a priest on the MS Gulf Coast and he's been saying this for years. He counsels many homosexuals, and it's interesting that they come to him, and suggest him to others, because he lets them know in no uncertain terms that their behavior is sinful and that they must change.

48 posted on 12/23/2004 8:10:59 AM PST by SuziQ (It's the most wonderful time of the year!)
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To: johnnycap

It would be interesting to know the rate of gay/gay violence in countries that openly accept homosexuality. I would bet it is nearly the same, if not identical, to what we see here in the U.S. I don't believe the violence is related to anything other than dysfunctional behavior between dysfunctional people.


49 posted on 12/23/2004 8:16:45 AM PST by ChocChipCookie (Really! I'm just a nice little stay-at-home mom!)
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To: dzzrtrock; All
...So for a woman, living with a man in marriage is close to 10 times less dangerous than having an on-going sexual relationship with a woman...

This (detail) reputable information has been slow in coming out...

If one takes a hard critical look at all the domestic violence 'studies' one will find they are far from scientific and are but propaganda of the extreme feminists agenda.

The 'studies' that are parroted today are based upon all 'relationships' sampled -[they]mask reality and skew the landscape to suggest conventional marriage is plagued with and suffers an epidemic rate of domestic violence -this is untrue and but attack and ammunition against conventional 'nuclear' families.

Domestic violence among married heterosexuals is not the norm -it is an exception at far lower incidence than that of homosexual, unmarrieds etcetera etcetera. The real story is yet to be told...

50 posted on 12/23/2004 8:18:54 AM PST by DBeers
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To: dzzrtrock
Violence against blacks is primarily perpetrated by blacks.
Violence against gays is primary perpetrated by gays.
In both cases, white males are to blame, and must be angrily protested against, ad nauseum.
51 posted on 12/23/2004 8:31:27 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: An American In Dairyland
Thanks for your reply and reminder of where the vile lie re the violence on Super Bowl Day. Isn't Free Republic great!

"Just to highlight part of what you said:

"The Super Bowl Domestic Violence Myth is not even a myth. It was a vile lie deliberately created and perpetuated by feminist Lenore Walker. It has been debunked many times over.

There is NO higher incidence of domestic violence during Super Bowl games than at any other time of the year.

52 posted on 12/23/2004 8:36:57 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Rummy Phobia is the new mental disorder of the left. It is similiar to Hate GW Syndrome!)
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To: johnnycap
Next, you can cure all the Palestinians and make them Jews.

Why the useless digression? Can you not discuss the facts?

Everyone is heterosexual. Those that think they are homosexual are delusional. Generally there is a cause to that which can be treated. Delusions aren't generall "cured" in the same way a flu is "cured" but they can learn to live as heterosexuals without negative effects.

Thousands have done so. Every one of them can.

Shalom.

53 posted on 12/23/2004 8:47:42 AM PST by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: 45semi
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54 posted on 12/23/2004 9:41:56 AM PST by telebob
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To: DBeers

There is also the issue of erratic behavior as a result of ecstacy and meth abuse in the homosexual lifestyle.

There is no denying the homosexual lifestyle itself has greater incidence of behaviors which lead to violence, disease and ultimatly premature death.


This is no different than a person who drives more miles on the road having a higher risk of recieving a speeding ticket.


55 posted on 12/23/2004 9:53:02 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: ChocChipCookie

"It would be interesting to know the rate of gay/gay violence in countries that openly accept homosexuality. I would bet it is nearly the same, if not identical, to what we see here in the U.S. I don't believe the violence is related to anything other than dysfunctional behavior between dysfunctional people."

I think this is a great observation. The only thing I would add here is the question, "How long after a society adopts 'equal rights' can one say that these are accepting societies?"

In the case of black civil rights in America, the demarcation cannot be placed at the date President Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act. Would 25 years from that date be reasonable? Well, that would put us in the early 90's. Some would say that isn't enough. So, determining how long after a society 'accepts' a certain group before real rights become part of the unconscious competency of that society is the hard part in your hypothesis.

Let's say the society you are refering to is The Netherlands. One would have to back up to the date where the rights that you would constitute as 'acceptance' were first enacted and add say 25, 35 or 45 years to that date in order to begin your observations on domestic violence. Even in that society, I don't think we are there yet so we really couldn't complete your test of the hypothesis. It's a good idea, though.


56 posted on 12/23/2004 10:12:18 AM PST by johnnycap
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To: Valpal1

"It's society's fault, it's society's fault, Whaaa.

Give me a break, it is disordered thinking, disordered living that is responsible."

-So is sitting on the couch for hours and hours every night eating processed crap but most Americans are doing it and it threatens you and your family way more yet it fails to gather an emotional response from the majority of people. What is it about homosexuals that gets you off the couch?


57 posted on 12/23/2004 10:14:34 AM PST by johnnycap
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To: longtermmemmory

"It would never change the self loathing factor since it will always be using a human body against design..."

Flying in jet airplanes, eating doritos, sychronized swimming, riding rollercoasters, pro-football...all use the human body against design. While we are at it, add smoking, drinking, and mixing proteins and carbohydrates as other instances of using the human body against design.

Adults who use milk products use the human body against design. Dude, if that were the litmus test, then will the last non-abhorant, non-condemned person on the planet, please shut out the lights...


58 posted on 12/23/2004 10:19:03 AM PST by johnnycap
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To: ArGee

"Why the useless digression? Can you not discuss the facts?"

The digression was not useless. Sarcasm to illustrate an unfounded fact is a most germaine use of linguistic style. The writer argues that all people are born heterosexual. That is not a proven fact at this point in the history of science. By pointing out that all Palestinians can no more easily become Jewish is a very germaine way to illustrate the absurdity of the writer's view that all homosexuals are just heterosexuals without a good therapist


59 posted on 12/23/2004 10:22:49 AM PST by johnnycap
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To: johnnycap

I truly fail to see how other people's eating habits are threatening to my family, they aren't demanding that I teach my children to eat like them.

However, I have been the target of "recruiting" in high school and college. I know others who have also been so desired and targeted.

It's the lavender mafia and their agenda that makes me adamant in my opposition to them. They worship death and are at enmity with God.

They didn't get me and they won't get my children either.


60 posted on 12/23/2004 10:31:57 AM PST by Valpal1 (The constitution is going to be amended, the only question is by whom?)
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