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Fake Navy Seal Accuses Team Members of Torture
veriSEAL.org, Salon.com, LAtimes.com ^ | 22 DEC 2004 | tht73a

Posted on 12/22/2004 6:34:09 PM PST by tht73a

Fake SEAL accuses soldiers of torture

21 DEC 2004

VeriSEAL

TAMPA, Florida - A former California National Guard soldier who accused others in his unit of torturing Iraqi prisoners may have military justice problems of his own.

Frank "Greg" Ford claims to have witnessed members of his National Guard battalion torturing Iraqi prisoners while his unit was stationed in Samarra in 2003, according to David DeBatto, a former National Guard Tactical HUMINT Team (THT) member and author of a story titled "Whitewashing Torture" published on a far left web site in early December.

DeBatto says that Ford reported the alleged abuse to his commanding officer and, hours later, was strapped to a gurney and flown out of Iraq for psychiatric evaluation. According to Army sources contacted by VeriSEAL, an informal investigation pursuant to Rules for Courts-Martial was conducted in response to Ford's allegations and the allegations were determined to be unfounded. Ford was medevaced from Iraq only after exhibiting what was described as delusional behavior.

Ford's claims of torture and abuse witnessed while in Iraq are not the only contentious issues surrounding him. Over the years he has made numerous unsubstantiated claims including being a medical doctor, a Navy SEAL, and a member of President Nixon's security detail. In May 2003, Ford claimed to know the exact whereabouts of Saddam Hussein and Ali Hassan al-Majid known as "Chemical Ali". Hussein and al-Majid were not located and captured until many months later.

Just prior to his battalion's deployment to Iraq, Ford was photographed at Fort Lewis in Washington state wearing unauthorized insignia on his Battle Dress Uniform. The insignia -- a Navy SEAL Trident -- is authorized to be worn only by qualified U.S. Navy SEALs, something Ford is not and never was.

While in Iraq, Ford also claims to have saved the life of a wounded soldier. According to sources familiar with the incident, sworn affidavits from medics and other witnesses at the scene say Ford did nothing more than hold the wounded soldier's IV bag.

As for wearing a Navy SEAL "budweiser" on his Army uniform, Ford has said he attended a discontinued BUD/S program for Navy corpsmen in the 1980s and was a "medic" assigned to a Navy SEAL team. While there once was such a program for SEAL corpsmen who, at the time, were precluded by the Geneva Conventions from attending BUD/S, Navy records held by VeriSEAL do not list Ford among the graduates of that program.

"The subdued Trident on his BDUs is easily recognizable by any Naval Special Warfare personnel as the SEAL breast insignia," says Kent Dillingham, a retired Navy SEAL who is the founder and project director of VeriSEAL. "He wasn't a SEAL. He wasn't authorized to wear it. Period."

Dillingham, a 30-year veteran of the active duty military, recently retired after returning from deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan with a Naval Special Warfare unit.

David DeBatto acknowledges that while in Iraq he personally did not witness any incidents similar to those reported by Ford. He maintains "every army psychiatrist diagnosed Sergeant Ford as completely normal with absolutely no psychological or mental health issues whatsoever."

DeBatto is currently writing a work of fiction based on Army counter-intelligence which is said due to be published in 2005.

Ford is reportedly close to retirement as a prison guard at California's Folsom State Prison. He claims to have retired with 30 years service in the Navy, Coast Guard and Army. VeriSEAL researchers are puzzled as to how he could have spent 30 years in the armed forces along with a presumed 20-year career as a prison guard. It is not known if the Army is investigating Ford's UCMJ violations or false military qualification claims. Wearing unauthorized insignia is a violation of both military and federal law and is punishable by up to six months in jail.

Ford could not be reached for comment.

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TOPICS: US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 223rdmi; abugharib; abuse; counterintelligence; delusion; fake; intelligence; interrogation; iraq; mediawingofthednc; napalminthemorning; navyseals; rathergate; religionofpeace; samarra; torture; veriseal; wot
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To: tht73a

ping


21 posted on 12/22/2004 6:49:30 PM PST by ocr1
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To: Calpernia

LOL!


22 posted on 12/22/2004 6:50:00 PM PST by bushisdamanin04
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To: tht73a

"You should see how the left lionizes this Greg Ford."
It took thirty years to get back at other frauds lionized by the left..

http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/
Winter Soldier


23 posted on 12/22/2004 6:52:18 PM PST by MEG33 (MERRY CHRISTMAS!.....GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: tht73a; snopercod
I know a guy who was an MP, assigned with a S.E.A.L. platoon. He trained hard, then, and he still trains hard. Only once, has he ever mentioned anything about his experience, and when he did, he said he was only assigned to a S.E.A.L. platoon, that he, himself, was not a S.E.A.L.

Yet, though only 5' 7.5" tall, he is one, tough, fellow. Still iron. A human bullet. Crisp. His RADAR is always ON.

I knew a guy who was a S.E.A.L. in Vietnam, back in 1974. He was 25 years old, then, and his hair had turned silver. All he ever offered, was that he had been a S.E.A.L. He had lived a long life, in a very, very short time, in my view, and all he wanted was to get some peace, stateside, and a normal life.

In middle school, we had a teacher who had been Special Forces, 1963 - 1964, in Vietnam. He returned with various momentos and some information that was news to many of us; the war not yet being a day to day thing on TV.

Then there were, and still are some of, the quiet men, who dared and did much, that the current military minds in charge, would do well to study, because many of the old lessons apply, now.

24 posted on 12/22/2004 6:52:32 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: laconic

Well, I wasn't exactly a SEAL but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night......


25 posted on 12/22/2004 6:53:13 PM PST by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: tht73a

I can't believe I forgot to express my gratitude for your service. THANK YOU!


26 posted on 12/22/2004 7:00:17 PM PST by MEG33 (MERRY CHRISTMAS!.....GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: HiJinx

I have no idea, but I doubt he was at Riley then. But maybe in his mind he was.

(^_^),

John


27 posted on 12/22/2004 7:07:18 PM PST by tht73a
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To: tht73a
Ford could not be reached for comment

LOL

28 posted on 12/22/2004 7:09:33 PM PST by 1_Inch_Group (Libraria del Pueblo: Guilty of section 1511 (obstruction of State or local law enforcement) RICO)
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To: SE Mom
Isn't there an island somewhere we can send these delusional wannabe's

Yes there is! Parris Island!

30 posted on 12/22/2004 7:19:17 PM PST by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but have recently come to my senses.)
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To: tht73a

"By the way, DeBatto is also milking this story, in order to advertise his military intelligence "expertise", so that he can sell his ficion book "CI Team Red""

That tells me immediately he is not true Intel. As someone who worked for AIA (Air Intelligence Agency) and NSA, I know we cannot write any "Tom Clancy" style of books.


31 posted on 12/22/2004 7:23:18 PM PST by xusafflyer (Keep paying those taxes California. Mexico thanks you.)
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To: tht73a
"You should see how the left lionizes this Greg Ford. "

Not to worry, most folks now recognize the Left, the media and their heroes are the enemy..

Semper Fi

32 posted on 12/22/2004 7:39:29 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek...But I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; tht73a
Sounds like that dud isn't wrapped to tight

a member of President Nixon's security detail??

Thanks for posting this story, tht73a ... and Thank You for your service to our country

Merry Christmas to you and yours
33 posted on 12/22/2004 7:40:39 PM PST by Mo1 (Should be called Oil for Fraud and not Oil for Food)
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To: tht73a

Welcome aboard and a very heartfelt thank you for your service to our country.


34 posted on 12/22/2004 7:59:52 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: xusafflyer

Well, DeBatto was actually there, as a 97B CI Agent. But yes. He is no true agent. I mean, spewing all that nonsense all over the news. You should read some of the junk he professess. The one I like the most is how a Sheik, is going to name his child after him. I hope they have an arabic version of David. LOL.

Later


35 posted on 12/22/2004 8:06:15 PM PST by tht73a
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To: tht73a

Welcome to FR and thanks for your service.


36 posted on 12/22/2004 8:11:39 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: stockpirate

ping!


37 posted on 12/22/2004 8:14:07 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: tht73a

Welcome to FR


38 posted on 12/22/2004 8:23:39 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: LoudRepublicangirl

LoudRepublicangirl: "but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night......"

Not gonna say it. Nope, not gonna say it......

Okay, I'll say it - Next time, try not to be so loud! :-)


39 posted on 12/22/2004 8:26:07 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: tht73a
Bravo Zulu... thankx for your service!!!
40 posted on 12/22/2004 8:28:56 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©® - Dubya... F**K YEAH!!!)
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