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Stalin's Admirers Celebrate 125th Birthday
WINK TV Southwest Florida ^ | December 21, 2004 | By MISHA DZHINDZKHIKHASHVILI Associated Press Writer

Posted on 12/21/2004 2:16:08 PM PST by Grzegorz 246

TBILISI, Georgia Dozens of residents of Josef Stalin's hometown celebrated the 125th anniversary of his birth Tuesday, singing, dancing and drinking champagne toasts to the late Soviet dictator.

People cried and kissed a 6-foot-tall cardboard cutout of Stalin and laid wreaths at the base of a monument in the small town of Gori, 50 miles west of the capital, Tbilisi, paying honor to the man who oversaw years of brutal purges and remarkable industrialization of an agricultural society.

"Not a few difficulties we lived through. We stood up to the Germans in the war. We built a great state," said Kote Kavtaradze, a 78-year-old World War II veteran, as others waved Soviet hammer-and-sickle flags nearby. "And what do we have now? I can't even feed myself on my pension."

He said it was about $6 a month.

Yevgeny Dzhugashvili came to the Gori celebration to mark the birthday of his grandfather _ whose real name was Josef Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili.

"People remember how everything used to be. There was work," Dzhugashvili told reporters.

Considered a brutal tyrant for political purges in which more than 10 million are believed to have died and for forced collectivization that wiped out the peasantry, Stalin continues to be admired in the former Soviet Union _ even by many non-Communists _ for leading the country to victory in World War II and pulling it into the industrial age. He died in 1953.

In Russia, hundreds of people laid flowers and a wreath at granite bust of Stalin just off of Red Square, along the Kremlin's walls.

"In the years after the war, Stalin managed to mobilize the economy and resurrected 1,700 towns, to rid the country of rationing and turn the country into nuclear power that for 50 years was a reliable shield," Communist Party leader Gennady Zyuganov said.

Boris Gryzlov, speaker of Russia's lower house of parliament, said Stalin should be remembered for his accomplishments.

"As a leader of the country, Stalin did much," Gryzlov said. But "what I think to be his extremes in his domestic policy, they certainly did not do much for his image."

Russia NTV television said a poll of 1,600 Russians taken by the respected Levada Center showed that only 31 percent consider Stalin to be a cruel tyrant, while 21 percent think he was a wise leader. The poll had a margin of error of 3 percentage points.

The poll also found 16 percent thought that "our people will never be able to do without a leader like Stalin."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: georgia; gryzlov; happybirthday; russia; stalin; stalinists
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1 posted on 12/21/2004 2:16:08 PM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246

I guess he did make the trains run on time, huh?


2 posted on 12/21/2004 2:17:37 PM PST by Zhangliqun (What are intellectuals for but to complexify the obvious?)
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To: Grzegorz 246

Nothing like dictator admiration...proof positive...idiots come in all nationalities.


3 posted on 12/21/2004 2:20:17 PM PST by dinok
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To: Grzegorz 246
But "what I think to be his extremes in his domestic policy, they certainly did not do much for his image."

It is amazing what killing 10 million people can do to your image

The poll also found 16 percent thought that "our people will never be able to do without a leader like Stalin."

Oh for crying out loud. Wasn't there also a poll recently that showed many Germans had a good view of Hitler?

4 posted on 12/21/2004 2:20:22 PM PST by KJacob (Faith is not believing God can. It is knowing God will.)
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To: Grzegorz 246

I wonder if Hillary Clinton was amongst the celebrants.


5 posted on 12/21/2004 2:21:06 PM PST by MisterRepublican ("I must go. I must be elusive.")
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To: Grzegorz 246
"I think Joe Stalin was a guy that was hugely misunderstood," said Asner. "And to this day, I don't think I have ever seen an adequate job done of telling the story of Joe Stalin, so I guess my answer would have to be Joe Stalin."

- Ed Asner, one-time movie jerk on which of his heroes he would like to portray on film.

6 posted on 12/21/2004 2:21:33 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: Zhangliqun

Aristotle wrote about some people being fit only to be slaves, and for nothing else. This story brings his point of view in greater relief.


7 posted on 12/21/2004 2:21:44 PM PST by GSlob
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To: Grzegorz 246

Just like the French worship Napoleon.


8 posted on 12/21/2004 2:21:47 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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To: MisterRepublican
I wonder if Hillary Clinton was amongst the celebrants.

She probably had a private worship service with her closest comrades.

Michael M. Bates: My Side of the Swamp

9 posted on 12/21/2004 2:22:57 PM PST by Mike Bates (If you've been very, very good, Santa may give you. . . .)
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To: Paleo Conservative

don't even go comparing those two. Are you kidding?


10 posted on 12/21/2004 2:23:17 PM PST by Borges
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To: 45Auto

wow check this out.....

By MISHA DZHINDZKHIKHASHVILI Associated Press Writer


11 posted on 12/21/2004 2:24:36 PM PST by KOZ. (Razom Nas Bahato!)
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To: KJacob
The poll also found 16 percent thought that "our people will never be able to do without a leader like Stalin."

Age-old psychology at work.

Slaves need a master. Free people are able to "do" on their own.

12 posted on 12/21/2004 2:25:04 PM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: Grzegorz 246
... political purges in which more than 10 million are believed to have died...

I suppose they're not counting the 30 million plus he starved to death.

13 posted on 12/21/2004 2:25:59 PM PST by DeFault User
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To: Grzegorz 246

Oh the good old days. Something about standing in line with your neighbors for the bare necessities really gives you time to chat, which helps strengthen the community.


14 posted on 12/21/2004 2:26:14 PM PST by Jaysun (I'm pleased to report that Arafat's condition remains stable.)
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To: Grzegorz 246; aculeus; general_re; Poohbah; BlueLancer; hellinahandcart; struwwelpeter
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“To commemorate Stalin’s well-known sense of humor, celebrants were hauled off afterwards and shot.”
15 posted on 12/21/2004 2:27:55 PM PST by dighton
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To: 45Auto
"I think Joe Stalin was a guy that was hugely misunderstood," said Asner. "And to this day, I don't think I have ever seen an adequate job done of telling the story of Joe Stalin, so I guess my answer would have to be Joe Stalin."
- Ed Asner, one-time movie jerk on which of his heroes he would like to portray on film.


LOL -- Ed Asner never fails to amaze me with his simplistic, unbridled stupidity. Thank God he's a liberal.
16 posted on 12/21/2004 2:28:17 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Oh yeah - and F the french too!)
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To: Grzegorz 246

Disgusting. The worse murderer of modern times, and they weep for him. Stalin didn't "win WWII" for the USSR either. Hitler's incompetence and Father Winter did it.


17 posted on 12/21/2004 2:28:41 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: 45Auto
- Ed Asner, one-time movie jerk on which of his heroes he would like to portray on film. that would be fine considering Stalin is dead.
18 posted on 12/21/2004 2:29:23 PM PST by SF Republican
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To: Zack Nguyen

and Field Marshal Lend Lease


19 posted on 12/21/2004 2:31:25 PM PST by William of Orange (Does anybody know what time it is? Time to bomb Saddam!)
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