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Pop, Soda, or Coke?
http://www.popvssoda.com ^ | 12/21/04 | http://www.popvssoda.com

Posted on 12/21/2004 10:05:42 AM PST by agenda_express



TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: burporama; coke; pop; soda; tonic
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To: LexBaird
It doesn't matter whether you or I consider it proper pronunciation, it is not.

I haven't gone to the effort of tracing the origins of the word but it probably derives from the same word which Fort or Fortress comes from. I also suspect the forte you describe, came from the same origin rather than all these springing from the sword term.

All you have to do is look it up in any dictionary and the pronunciation is given regardless of the origin.

321 posted on 12/21/2004 2:45:41 PM PST by yarddog
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To: Polyxene

For me, soda is something you bake with!


322 posted on 12/21/2004 2:47:16 PM PST by bonfire
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To: yarddog
All you have to do is look it up in any dictionary and the pronunciation is given regardless of the origin.

The first dictionary I checked says you are incorrect.

Meaning of FORTE
Pronunciation: 'fortey
WordNet Dictionary
Definition:
[n]  the stronger part of a sword blade between the hilt and the foible
[n]  (music) with great loudness
[n]  an asset of special worth or utility; "cooking is his forte"
[adv]  used as a direction in music; to be played relatively loudly
[adj]  used chiefly as a direction or description in music; "the forte passages in the composition"
 

323 posted on 12/21/2004 2:56:23 PM PST by LexBaird ("Democracy can withstand anything but democrats" --Jubal Harshaw (RA Heinlein))
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To: LexBaird
Well I guess I shouldn't have said "any dictionary" since you apparently have found one which gives that pronunciation, but I checked four which I have in my house and none of them give any other pronunciatio than "fort" for a person's strong point.

These include the Oxford and Random House dictionaries.

324 posted on 12/21/2004 3:06:39 PM PST by yarddog
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To: LexBaird; yarddog
Interestingly, the dictionary.com definition felt so strongly about the controversy, they included the following note at the entry for "forte":

Usage Note: The word forte, coming from French fort, should properly be pronounced with one syllable, like the English word fort. Common usage, however, prefers the two-syllable pronunciation, (for-tay), which has been influenced possibly by the music term forte borrowed from Italian. In a recent survey a strong majority of the Usage Panel, 74 percent, preferred the two-syllable pronunciation. The result is a delicate situation; speakers who are aware of the origin of the word may wish to continue to pronounce it as one syllable but at an increasing risk of puzzling their listeners.

325 posted on 12/21/2004 3:07:35 PM PST by Ryan Spock
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To: agenda_express

It's always "pop" here. A coke here refers to the brand name only.


326 posted on 12/21/2004 3:11:43 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("BZZZZZT You are fined one credit for violation of the Verbal Morality Statute")
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To: AnAmericanMother
Dust mites

Dust mites? You know, dust mites are the little critters in house dust that cause a lot of allergy problems for people. I've never heard that used as an alternative term for "dust bunnies".

327 posted on 12/21/2004 3:14:42 PM PST by Ryan Spock
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To: Ryan Spock
My grandmother always said that, and my mother as well. I think it's a mis-speak for "dust motes".

. . . although she would never have admitted it. < g >

328 posted on 12/21/2004 3:15:53 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: saquin
Here's another one...what do you call $1 bills? Ones? Singles?

A bunch of them is a "Michigan bankroll".
I call them singles usually. I've heard ones as well.

329 posted on 12/21/2004 3:19:56 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("BZZZZZT You are fined one credit for violation of the Verbal Morality Statute")
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To: Ryan Spock

Thanks for the information.


330 posted on 12/21/2004 3:20:39 PM PST by yarddog
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To: maryz
I thought the carpet "sweeper" was called a hokey.. or a hoakie???

--erik

331 posted on 12/21/2004 3:24:28 PM PST by erikm88 (This tagline is false.)
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To: Ryan Spock; yarddog
Well, there you have it. You say tomatoe, I say tahmahto. Luckily, English doesn't have language cops, like the French. Usage evolves, or we would still be pronouncing all those extra letters in plough, ache, and Worcestershire sauce.
332 posted on 12/21/2004 3:26:45 PM PST by LexBaird ("Democracy can withstand anything but democrats" --Jubal Harshaw (RA Heinlein))
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To: maryz
I believe all the sofa/couch/davenport/divan terms are specific -- but I don't know the differences.

I don't either but I remember as a kid one living room had both a davenport and a couch -- everyone knew which was which. I can remember where each was placed but not really the appearances.

333 posted on 12/21/2004 3:30:03 PM PST by steve86
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To: Inyokern

I sure do.


334 posted on 12/21/2004 3:37:34 PM PST by MasonGal
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To: saquin

when I lived in NY City area
a purse was a pocket book
a sack was a bag UNLESS someone was called a sack of sh*t
a pop was a soda
coffee regular was not black coffee
Hero, sub and hoagie. Not to mention a grinder.
Dump trucks were all Macks.


335 posted on 12/21/2004 3:49:21 PM PST by llevrok
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To: AuH2ORepublican

TOO FUNNY!
I left that serpents den of the unholy alliance between the unions,church and the demecratic party in 1974 and have not been back.
my mom still loves me though.
merry christmas!
GODBLESS YOU AND YOURS!


336 posted on 12/21/2004 4:02:04 PM PST by alpha-8-25-02 (SAVED BY GRACE AND GRACE ALONE)
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To: CollegeRepublican

In South Philly at Pat's King of Steaks (home of the..), it is cheeze, widt.

http://www.patskingofsteaks.com/


337 posted on 12/21/2004 4:02:08 PM PST by llevrok
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To: agenda_express

I wish a coke was still cola and a joint was a bad place to be..............Merle Haggard


338 posted on 12/21/2004 4:14:29 PM PST by Texas Songwriter (p)
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To: alpha-8-25-02

Merry Christmas to you all as well.


339 posted on 12/21/2004 4:32:01 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: MasonGal

I'll bet you stop by Graeter's on your way to the pony keg.


340 posted on 12/21/2004 4:53:49 PM PST by Inyokern
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