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MORE DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS TO BE REGULATED?
FreeMarketNews.com ^ | Dec 20, 2004 | Michael A. Morning

Posted on 12/21/2004 9:55:45 AM PST by FreeMarket1

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To: neverdem

Oh great. It looks like I will have to order more stuff throught the mail.


21 posted on 12/21/2004 9:40:31 PM PST by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: cyborg
From the wording, it sounds like Congress's usual power grab at the behest of lobbyists...this time inspired by Bobby Bonds.

Friggin' corksuckers! --you know, the stopper on a bottle.

What did you think I meant? ;-)

22 posted on 12/22/2004 5:52:10 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: F16Fighter
BTW, Harkin is very much in FAVOR of preventitive nutrition, etc., according to the late Dr. Atkins (Dr. Atkins' Vita-Nutrient Solution copyright 1998 by Robert Atkins, MD, First Fireside Edition, p. 245):

"Some pollen-producing companies still use all three apiary product together. One such product administered together in large doses in a single morning played an important historical role in creating the federal Office of Alternative Medicine (OAM). The beneficiary was Senator Tom Harkin of Iowa, and the quick eradication of his allergies led him to conclude that alternative therapies may be worth looking into. Harkin has since become the Senate's foremost champion of alternative medicine and the driving force behind the OAM."

In that light, please remember to implore him politely to KEEP up the good work on supplements, and not throw out the supplement baby with the DHEA bath...
Please check up the prior posts and see what they say about 'herbs, amino acids, vitamins'...

Cheers!

23 posted on 12/22/2004 6:00:14 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: neverdem; cyborg
Thanks for pinging your health and science list, neverdem. That sounds like Hillary Care.

Right you are, cyborg. Americans certainly don't deserve to be any healthier than people living in mud huts. By all means, let's "standardize" nutrition worldwide so Hitlery can feel virtuous.

24 posted on 12/22/2004 8:01:52 AM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: FreeMarket1
Could allow a product to be banned following the submission of just a single isolated “adverse event”.

Let's ban Prozac, too. There have been many adverse events. Ohh, I forgot, Prozac benefits politically connected drug companies, while unregulated supplements are a threat to them.

While we're at it, we'd better add water to the list, too. Water poisoning sometimes afflicts overzealous exercisers who drink too much of the suspicious stuff.

25 posted on 12/22/2004 8:47:09 AM PST by SupplySider
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To: Veto!
Thanks -- that's the article I read on it earlier in the week. So..... what do we do? Perhaps find a way to arrange for hearings in congress where we can enlighten them on the necessity of supplements?

I have a question that came to me last night -- these "steroids" they are screaming about baseball players using... are they talking DHEA? Personally I consider DHEA a good thing if used correctly. I work for a MD and he became interested in DHEA and started at his own expense running DHEA tests in blood tests for his elderly patients -- what he found was the sicker the patients were the lower their DHEA levels are... I could tell you so many stories of health-restored from correct use of supplements instead of drugs... but, everything aside this control over our lives by the WTO and big business is getting REALLY old!!!!

26 posted on 12/22/2004 12:36:47 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn
he found was the sicker the patients were the lower their DHEA levels are...

Are you taking it? How much? A chiropractor friend suggested it to me, gave me the number of a testing outfit butI never followed up. And no, I don't think that's what athletes take, but I could be wrong. I think they get special designer steroids.

I could tell you so many stories of health-restored from correct use of supplements instead of drugs...

Yes indeed. A great diet and mega-supplements always work for me and mine. When he was 7, my son was always sick, finally ended up in the hospital for a week for testing, but they discovered nothing. Meanwhile I read a book by Adele Davis, famous nutritionist of her day. Her chapter on Vitamin C sounded just like my son, so I brought him home, gave him mega-doses, and his condition cleared up and stays cleared up as long as he takes his supplements. So easy!

. but, everything aside this control over our lives by the WTO and big business is getting REALLY old!!!!

It's extremely frightening. Maybe we can find organizations that are fighting Codex Alimentarium and lend our support.

27 posted on 12/22/2004 12:49:44 PM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: neverdem
Add me... by the way in addition to my own health; supplement restored my mothers' health back in the 70's. She suffered from Chronic Serum Hepatitis caused by a blood transfusion and the doctors had given up and said she was going to die -- they took her off all drugs since they weren't working.

At the time Adele Davis was the only "expert" out there and Rodale Press was really getting a foothold -- from Davis's book Lets Get Well we followed the instructions for the liver (not cheap even back then) and she actually started to improve.

Her improvement had the doctors scratching their heads and finally she fessed up to what she was doing -- the doctor laughed and laughed and then said it "couldn't hurt" anything but he knew if the drugs didn't work vitamins certainly weren't going to do any good -- finally she was feeling so well that he put her back into the hospital -- did a new liver biopsy -- and then came into her room and asked her what book she read because he wanted to read it himself -- her liver had totally regenerated itself. That was back in the 70's. Today my mother is in her mid-70's and manages a very busy real estate office in California.

That is only one of several stories... there is our dog we kept from having major surgery on both hips by giving her the correct supplements while they stabilized her for surgery... today, 18 months later, she is painfree and still surgery-free.. she received a Boswella capsule each day for her joints... which, by the way, Boswella is a natural substance that is a safe alternative to Vioxx, Celebrex, Aleve (all on the list of NSAIDS that may cause heart problems).. so, no the drug companies don't want us to have access to these things, might make them unnecessary!

Oh, yes, I heard yesterday that Aleve is made by Bayer (one of the three German offshoot companies from WWII)...

28 posted on 12/22/2004 12:53:22 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: FreeMarket1; hobbes1

Dang. And I thought the opprossevive nanny state thing was atleast domestically inspired.


29 posted on 12/22/2004 12:58:27 PM PST by NeoCaveman (If you can't be a good example, atleast be a billboard of what not to do)
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To: Veto!
It's a good idea to have your level determined before taking the supplement... take for 3 weeks and off a week and after three months of the supplements have your levels checked again. Women seem to hold the levels better than men for some reason. It is a hormone (one of the mother hormones). I have taken it, but I never take it for more than a few months at a time before giving it a rest.

Right now we have a dog with CUshings SYndrome and she is getting DHEA as part of her nutritional regimine ( sometimes it seems I spend more on supplements for my dogs than my husband and myself)...

It's interesting if you set your supplement according to blood test results you can with time restore your body to balance... we've been doing this with my husband who actually suffered from too low cholesterol (89) and I found on Dr. Mercola's site that this is actually a problem brought on from the "Low Fat Diet Craze" and there was a specific supplement he recommended that worked to get rid of the "sludge." We ordered it (not cheap -- and not from Mercola) and sure enough took about 6 months to see complete turn-around but it worked along with tweaking a few other things.

What's too bad is that more doctors don't work with your blood work and the patient to restore health rather than mask poor health -- but then I remember -- if they "cure" you they lose a patient (no offense to doctors on Free Republic) same with vets and our dogs.

30 posted on 12/22/2004 1:01:10 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn
if they "cure" you they lose a patient

The worst example I ever saw: I was married to a man I absolutely loved. He was a diabetic, saw his doctor monthly and followed his diabetic diet to the letter. Trouble was, he poured in a quart of vodka daily too and became a seriously nasty alcoholic. I made an appointment to see his doctor who affirmed, surprise surprise, that alcohol was terrible for a diabetic. "Will you help me get him off it?" "No, I'd lose him as a patient."

I like Dr. Mercola too and consider his advice the best on the Net.

Thanks for the info on DHEA. Interesting about your dog . My grrrrrrrrl's blood tests reveal a similar conditionn creeping up on her. May I ask how much DHEA per pound you give your dog?

I discovered pregnenolone, a pre-hormonal substance, tried it out, and got excellent results. Very energy enhancing. It is, however, the one thing my doc, thankfully very hip to nutrition, wants to keep an eye on and test for from time to time. I've run the rest of my program past him and he likes it. A couple of years ago, he had to put me on a weeklong course of steroids for very inflamed ground hornet bites. Was that ever fun! I was leaping tall buildings and can readily see why athletes use them. They make you feel 100% stronger and give you incredible endurance. My daughter and her friend had come to the big city to shop with me that weekend and I ran both of them into the ground. I only wish I could maintian my Mom on Steroids status. LOL

31 posted on 12/22/2004 1:35:50 PM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Veto!
We took a 25mg tablet and split it into 1/4 pieces and she is getting one a day. She weighs 24 pounds. All the information I found indicated that for the Cushings it was helpful in low dosage. She is getting PS (phosphatidyl-serine) adrenal cleanse, greens plus, COQ10, Transfer Factor, fish oil in the a.m. and flax seed oil and ricotta cheese in the p.m. and 6mg of melatonin at bedtime.... and, of course, lysodren (now on maintenance dose)... doing very well (knock on wood) and boswella for her hips.

Flaky skin is no longer flaking, hair is growing back and she's lost 2 1/2 inches off her waistline.

32 posted on 12/22/2004 8:21:36 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: dubyaismypresident
Are you surprised ???? that fuc@ing communist Durbin has been at this for years...though I bet there is a hidden money trail somewhere, since Dick....bag...is also a proponent of pharm.drug bene. legislation.
33 posted on 12/22/2004 8:45:48 PM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: hobbes1

The only thing I'm slightly suprised is the whole NWO angle. Of course the first rule of the NWO is no one talks about the NWO.


34 posted on 12/22/2004 8:49:19 PM PST by NeoCaveman (If you can't be a good example, atleast be a billboard of what not to do)
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To: Veto!

"As far as I'm concerned the DEA can stick to monitoring supplement manufacturing facilities for cleanliness. They don't even do that very well."

Many makers of supplements have facilities superior to those of the big, expensive drug manufacturers.

I hope that this can be beaten back. If not many of us are in grave trouble unless we can get out of the country to purchase what we need.


35 posted on 12/23/2004 9:54:10 AM PST by Spirited
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To: Spirited
I hope that this can be beaten back. If not many of us are in grave trouble unless we can get out of the country to purchase what we need.

Where will you go? This is a UN project to be applied to every country in the world. Germany and Norway have already caved. Most countries represented at WHO have caved except the UK and USA. If our country caves, we'll have to set up sub rosa manufacturing in our basements and make our own vitamins. Sort of like bathtub gin during Prohibition.

36 posted on 12/23/2004 10:29:58 AM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Rightfootforward

Read on through the thread and click the link at my post #16. Whenever you have surfing time, google Codex Alimentarium from time to time for updates, which are hard to come by as this commie UN subagency operates on the sly.


37 posted on 12/24/2004 2:18:16 PM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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