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How Spyware Took The Next-Gen Threat Crown (On The Internet's No #1 Threat Today MUST READ!!!)
ESecurityPlanet.com ^ | 12/20/04 | Sonny Discini

Posted on 12/21/2004 2:39:48 AM PST by goldstategop

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To: goldstategop

Before I re-ran Norton, I had run Ad-Aware, XoftSpy and Adware Filter. I had not run Spybot.

Just ran Spybot and it found 3 non-critical items which I told it to delete. Those 3 items were not the ones I listed above.

I don't understand why Norton is identifying these "threats" but giving me no option to remove them.

As for going to the registry...that scares me to death. I'm a WIMP, not a geek.


121 posted on 12/21/2004 7:50:03 AM PST by Timeout
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To: goldstategop

...save


122 posted on 12/21/2004 7:52:20 AM PST by WestCoastGal (61 DAYS...The name of the Lord is a strong tower. The righteous man will run to it and be safe.)
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To: RedEyeJack
My own opinion is that anything that takes over your private computer without your informed consent should be illegal and that anyone distributing such programs and those paying to have it distributed (the engine that drives this train) should be held criminally responsible.

It can be argued that spyware's actions constitute theft. Burglary, I suppose, although that depends on the statutory definition. The problem is that the "consent" is rarely, if ever, truly informed.

123 posted on 12/21/2004 7:53:03 AM PST by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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To: Timeout

Has Norton quarantined them? If so you can delete the quarantined files.


124 posted on 12/21/2004 7:54:46 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Chemist_Geek

Try wading through a 6,000 screen EULA to find out exactly what the license says. The waste of bandwidth alone is criminal.


125 posted on 12/21/2004 7:56:05 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
The spyware I hate most is the infamus Cool-Web-Search series of browser hijackers. Coming in second would be Gator/GAIN. Here is a good site for tools to remove both. CWS Chronicles.
126 posted on 12/21/2004 7:57:00 AM PST by Paul_Denton
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To: goldstategop
Has Norton quarantined them?

No. That's what is so odd. Norton identifies them but is giving me no option to either delete or quarantine or fix them. Normally there's an "action" button to use, but in this case it's giving me no options.

127 posted on 12/21/2004 7:57:40 AM PST by Timeout
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To: Timeout

Have you contacted Symantec tech support with the details? They may be able to help you resolve the issue.


128 posted on 12/21/2004 7:59:21 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

I guess that's my next move...although I hate Symantec more than Gator itself.


129 posted on 12/21/2004 8:03:16 AM PST by Timeout
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To: goldstategop
Bump for later reference.

I hate this stuff and love this stuff at the same time.

Hate it of course when it gets on my systems (rare) but I make a lot of money removing it from others'.

Very conflicted. ;)

130 posted on 12/21/2004 8:06:51 AM PST by kAcknor (That's my version of it anyway....)
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To: flair2000
As I was beginning to type the password, my modem hung up, and then started dialing another number that I had never heard of. I immediately shut down the computer. It took several runs of CW Shredder to completely remove this garbage. These people coming up with this stuff are getting much better at it. A lot of them are in former East bloc countries and are out of reach, and their governments are of no help.

That happened to me once. I assumed it was just my modem reconnecting to the internet until some dialer garbage popped up. I physically disconnected my phone line and it took several runs of CW Shredder, Hijack This, and Spybot S&D to get rid of it.

131 posted on 12/21/2004 8:08:25 AM PST by Paul_Denton
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To: goldstategop
bookmarked
132 posted on 12/21/2004 8:09:00 AM PST by Warhammer (I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.)
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To: goldstategop
Try wading through a 6,000 screen EULA to find out exactly what the license says. The waste of bandwidth alone is criminal.

Oh, I know. That's the whole intent behind the 6,000 screens of verbal garbage and garbled verbiage. They can claim, if actually held responsible some sunny day, that they received consent for everything that was done.

133 posted on 12/21/2004 8:19:53 AM PST by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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To: All
There is also Avast. It is an anti-virus program but I found it has stopped several spy programs from being installed. It is free and for those gamers ammong us, it does not hog up system resources.
134 posted on 12/21/2004 8:29:09 AM PST by Paul_Denton
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To: goldstategop

I have Spyware S&D on my pc, along with Adaware (earlier version). It was too late by the time I discovered them and installed them on my pc. Whatever is on that pc, disabled my Norton AntiVirus, and some tools provided by Windows. Many times when I tried to run S&D or Norton, my system would shut down. Then it would pop up with a warning that my virtual memory was too low. I could not find the programs that were running and causing the problem. Time for the geek squad, because my HD now sounds like a coffee grinder.

I'd like to get my hands on the creeps who dream up these worms, malware, trojans, etc.

When my pc is fixed, the first thing I'm going to do is go back to my bookmarked threads, and install everything....probably including Fire Fox.

Thanks again for your help :-)


135 posted on 12/21/2004 8:37:10 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl ("In the Kingdom of the Deluded, the Most Outrageous Liar is King".)
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To: goldstategop
Then again, you could get a Macintosh, and forego worrying about...
- Spyware - there _isn't_ any
- Adware - none at all!
- Viruses - no known virus exists for OS X, not a single one
- Trojans - nothing out there
There's no reason to even use anti-virus software on a Macintosh anymore. Anti-spyware programs? What the heck are they? (laughs)

Just for the heck of it, after reading the intial article, I launched Norton Anti-Virus for Mac and let it scan my most important volumes. As usual, nothing to report. I hadn't run Norton in at least a year - there's no reason to. I'm wondering why I bother to keep it on my drive any more.

The only way the spyware/adware/virus/trojan problems are going to be solved on the PC side is to ditch Windows and go to an entirely new operating system. I doubt there will be any other workable solution. As soon as one "opening" is closed, another seems to be opened and exploited by those who do such things. I can't understand why Microsoft engineered its operating and application software to have so many hidden - and intentional - security holes.

On the other hand, I _do_ understand that many businesses are - for now - locked into the Windows World. But that could change. Of course, they probably won't "go Mac", and I don't expect that; it will be some other OS. But what?

Nevertheless, regardless of what you're using at work, if you're tired of fighting the spyware and adware at home, and want to GET RID those hassles, you might consider checking out the Mac side of things!

Cheers!
- John

136 posted on 12/21/2004 8:37:22 AM PST by Fishrrman
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To: goldstategop

bump


137 posted on 12/21/2004 8:56:53 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Truth, Justice and the Texan Way)
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To: Happy2BMe

Bad boys! Bad boys!
Whatca gonna do?
Whatca gonna do when they come for you?

Bad boys! Bad boys!
Whatca gonna do?
Whatca gonna do when they come for yoooooooouuuuu?


138 posted on 12/21/2004 12:00:17 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP! ©)
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To: All

SpywareBlaster. It's free, works better than Spybot, in the background, with no input except updating definitions weekly. It's also FREE.

Do it. NOW.


139 posted on 12/21/2004 1:18:43 PM PST by TheSaurus
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To: octobersky

self ping for later


140 posted on 12/21/2004 1:40:00 PM PST by octobersky
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