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1 posted on 12/20/2004 7:48:39 AM PST by Ellesu
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To: Ellesu

Please include full attribution when posting articles. Thanks.


2 posted on 12/20/2004 7:51:02 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Ellesu

Never take a knife (bayonet) to a gun fight. Seriously though, while tragic, it sounds like the officer didn't have much choice.


3 posted on 12/20/2004 7:52:43 AM PST by scooter2
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To: Ellesu
This is actually the first crime in 10 years that could have been affected by the now expired "clinton assault weapons ban" - it banned some rifles if they did not remove the bayonet lug...
4 posted on 12/20/2004 7:52:59 AM PST by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Ellesu

"An autopsy will be performed today"

Uhhh! I can save the coroner some time.

He was killed by a BULLET!


5 posted on 12/20/2004 7:53:17 AM PST by Bigh4u2
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To: Ellesu
Looks to me that Matthew Jones learned the consequences of drugs and alcohol, irresponsible use of weaponry, and pulling a gun on a LEO the hard way.

Oh, and the "boys father" is a complete idiot for allowing his kid access to drugs and weaponry in his own home. I guess Darwin was right about a few things.

11 posted on 12/20/2004 7:58:00 AM PST by BureaucratusMaximus ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Joe Brower

bang


14 posted on 12/20/2004 7:59:28 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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Boise police officer kills teen wielding rifle with bayonet

The Boise police are issued bayonets?! Cool...

15 posted on 12/20/2004 8:00:10 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: Ellesu

Too bad the officer didn't have a Taser.


18 posted on 12/20/2004 8:06:15 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Ellesu

There are two kinds of bayonet fighters. The quick and the dead.


19 posted on 12/20/2004 8:08:31 AM PST by Joe 6-pack ("We deal in hard calibers and hot lead." - Roland Deschaines)
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To: Ellesu

sounds like a clean shoot to me .... the boy was carrying a spear


20 posted on 12/20/2004 8:09:40 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Truth, Justice and the Texan Way)
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To: Ellesu

There is not quite enough information about this in the article. And it may be simply unknown. The officer was well within his rights to shoot someone trying to poke him with a bayonet. I would question whether putting 4 shots in the kid was excessive. It may have been, it may not have been. If the kid kept coming, the officer certainly should have kept firing, but if the officer was at all careful in where he shot kid, the first three should have been sufficiently debilitating to eliminate the threat.

That said, I don't think there is any criminal liability it the officer's actions. He faced a deadly threat with deadly force. But it is possible that better training could have led to a better outcome.


25 posted on 12/20/2004 8:39:28 AM PST by blanknoone (The two big battles left in the War on Terror are against our State dept and our media.)
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To: Ellesu

I really feel sorry for the Officer; he had no choice but to do his duty and defend himself, and I'm sure he'll carry the guilt around for the rest of his life.

But the bottom line is, don't threaten or attack a Police Officer. Period.


30 posted on 12/20/2004 8:47:43 AM PST by Bean Counter
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To: Ellesu

If the officer was really in fear for his life, how does he let a 16 yo get close enough to poke him with a bayonet?

If it happened as stated, why does the officer not take the boy down as I'm sure "he has been trained" to do without killing him?

Has any police officer anywhere not "responded as he was trained"? You never, ever, hear a police Chief say "officer So-And-So handled this imporperly and definately shouldn't have shot the suspect in the back."

I'm not defending the kids actions, but don't the cops ever take a risk to try and help the confused? It was a kid.

One more instance where the parents are making a mistake to call the cops. "Hello, police? Yeah, my kid is acting up again. Could you come over and shoot him or something?"


35 posted on 12/20/2004 8:55:47 AM PST by subterfuge ("Dems think 'Values' are what you get at WalMart"--subterfuge)
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To: Ellesu

What a terrible shame and waste of a young life. May God watch over his soul and give those who knew and loved him some peace in their minds and in their hearts.


38 posted on 12/20/2004 9:10:47 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: Ellesu
The boy's father described his son as distraught and irrational and said he seemed to be under the influence of drugs or alcohol

This kid may have been shot dead by the police, but he was really killed by his use of drugs, probably meth.

Very sad.

50 posted on 12/20/2004 11:21:19 AM PST by Gritty ("the brains of our own students have simply not been adequately developed in our schools"-T Sowell)
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