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Pope Condemns Same Sex Union as Attack on Society
Yahoo News ^ | December 18, 2004

Posted on 12/19/2004 11:12:34 AM PST by NYer

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope John Paul (news - web sites) on Saturday condemned same sex marriage as an attack on the fabric of society and called on Catholics to combat what he said was aggressive attempt to legally undermine the family.

"Attacks on marriage and the family, from an ideological and legal aspect, are becoming stronger and more radical every day," the 84-year old pontiff said in the unusually strong statement.

"Who destroys this fundamental fabric causes a profound injury to society and provokes often irreparable damage."

The Catholic Church teaches that marriage between a man and a women is sacred and that homosexuality is a sin.

That stance has been under pressure in some of its core constituencies, including the United States and Catholic Spain where the socialist government in October approved a controversial draft law to legalize gay unions.

But a counterattack has begun. In the United States, President Bush (news - web sites) was swept back to power in the November elections with help from U.S. evangelicals and Catholics who agree with the Pope.

Votes for Bush included solid support from the religious right and his win was interpreted by some as a victory for conservative Christians on issues like gay rights and abortion.

The Polish Pope on Saturday also condemned abortion, artificial procreation and equal status for cohabiting couples as undermining the marital state.

"These things that are presented as civilized progress or scientific conquests, in many cases are in fact a defeat for the dignity of human life and for society," his statement read.



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KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; homosexuallist; homosexualmarriage; johnpaulii; marriage; samesexmarriage; samesexunion; vatican
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
Is there anyone or any group that you would be offended to see Pope John Paul II reach out to?

Given that each human being is a child of God, and that John Paul II reached out to the Bulgarian who tried to kill him, the answer is no.

101 posted on 12/19/2004 4:51:01 PM PST by sinkspur ("How dare you presume to tell God what He cannot do" God Himself)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker; risk; Convert from ECUSA; IAF ThunderPilot; Alouette; Chemist_Geek; TexKat; ...

"Is there anyone or any group that you would be offended to see Pope John Paul II reach out to? If you answer, don't do so reflexively."Do you know America friend I am/jestem zydowka my husband is in GROM he is catolic. Do you know I like Jan Pawel II do you know that person do know(that Jan Pawel II do know what evil WWII is. Come to my country Majdanek,Brzezinka,Treblinka,Zamosc,Auschwiz,Warszawskie getto Jan Pawel II do know evil Thank you


102 posted on 12/19/2004 4:53:39 PM PST by anonymoussierra
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To: risk

Centesimus Annus, number 13.


103 posted on 12/19/2004 5:00:17 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
If that is indeed a direct quote from the pope, then I would applaud his clinical definition of life in socialist state.

Centesimus Annus, Number 13.

104 posted on 12/19/2004 5:04:30 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Victoria Delsoul; All

"Legal recognition of homosexual unions or placing them on the same level as marriage would mean not only the approval of deviant behaviour, with the consequence of making it a model in present-day society, but would also obscure basic values which belong to the common inheritance of humanity. The Church cannot fail to defend these values, for the good of men and women and for the good of society itself.”

-- The Sovereign Pontiff John Paul II, March 28, 2003 "


105 posted on 12/19/2004 5:17:25 PM PST by anonymoussierra
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To: jwalsh07; anonymoussierra; Cincinatus' Wife

Important criticism of socialism from the Church, given the trend to that point in S. America.


106 posted on 12/19/2004 5:22:40 PM PST by risk
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To: sinkspur

While it is not politically correct to hold such a view, yes I believe that will be necessary.


107 posted on 12/19/2004 5:24:17 PM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: sinkspur; risk; All

"I would guess that that ugly, stupid, cowardly action pushed many thousands of good people away from the Church.
I would guess that so few people know about the Pope kissing the Koran that its effect was, and is, negigible. In fact, I'd bet that not one single person left the Church at the time over it.

But, the Catholic haters (and I include the integrists in that group) continue to regurgitate a 20 year old act like a mother kangaroo puking up for her young.

It's reached the point of silliness."Thank you that is good what you write I do want know do persons know that Papiez Jan Pawel II want go to Moskwa he can not and Papiez want talk to Russia is that not good it is LOVE! Thank you


108 posted on 12/19/2004 5:26:31 PM PST by anonymoussierra
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To: sinkspur

So if he made a public outreach to the Church of Scientology or the Church of Satan, as he did toward Muslim leaders or other pagans, you wouldn't be offended?


109 posted on 12/19/2004 5:26:50 PM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
While it is not politically correct to hold such a view, yes I believe that will be necessary.

It is not only not politically correct, it can come back to haunt.

Restrict Muslims today, Christians may be restricted tomorrow.

It is to the credit of Americans that a majority do NOT want to restrict the rights of Muslim citizens who are minding their own business.

110 posted on 12/19/2004 5:28:42 PM PST by sinkspur ("How dare you presume to tell God what He cannot do" God Himself)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
So if he made a public outreach to the Church of Scientology or the Church of Satan, as he did toward Muslim leaders or other pagans, you wouldn't be offended?

As the Vicar of Christ, reaching out to another human being, no.

How are pagans to be converted if no one reaches out to them?

112 posted on 12/19/2004 5:30:32 PM PST by sinkspur ("How dare you presume to tell God what He cannot do" God Himself)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker; risk; Gucho; Grampa Dave; Ernest_at_the_Beach; BJClinton; Twinkie; ...

"Pope John Paul II is not a citizen of the United States of America and his opinons are no more welcome here than are those of the U.N.'s Secretary General."America friend you do not know what you write! Jan Pawel II is Poland person he is polskim obywatelem "citizen" in Italia Watykan is country Jan Pawel II is not ONZ "U.N's Secretary General"thank you


113 posted on 12/19/2004 5:38:13 PM PST by anonymoussierra
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To: sinkspur

Alright, be my guest and follow a leader that lends credence to the Satanic religion known as Islam by kissing their sacred book. Whether he did it yesterday or twenty years ago makes no difference.


114 posted on 12/19/2004 5:38:58 PM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: anonymoussierra

Okey-dokey.


115 posted on 12/19/2004 5:39:59 PM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: risk
I think that it is wonderful that 20 years ago the Pope helped to free us from communism.
However, this has nothing to do with the mistakes he has made as a man and my point was that I will not accept that this holy man planned to make the mistakes he did with a purpose.

He is only perfect in Dogma. When you saint him on Earth, you are going beyond your power. And being unrealistic.
116 posted on 12/19/2004 5:46:38 PM PST by netmilsmom (Zell on DEM Christianity, "They can hum the tune, but can't sing the song.")
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To: netmilsmom

Did I saint him?


117 posted on 12/19/2004 5:47:55 PM PST by risk
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To: NYer

I appreciate Karol W's opinion on this matter. Now when is he going to CLEAN OUT the seminaries of the soddomites?


118 posted on 12/19/2004 5:48:01 PM PST by Clemenza (Morford 2008: Not that there's anything wrong with it!)
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To: risk

>>He has a proven track record. Some of what he does may be difficult to understand, <<

In my eyes, you come close.

My Uncle is a Bishop. He once told a group of nuns who were literally petting a picture of JPII that they were wrong to act as if they worship him. You act as if all JPII mistakes have some secret plan behind them. I am more realistic. We all make mistakes, he is only infallable in Dogma.


119 posted on 12/19/2004 5:52:58 PM PST by netmilsmom (Zell on DEM Christianity, "They can hum the tune, but can't sing the song.")
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To: netmilsmom

Then I think you've misunderstood me. I did not address the other issues that may bother you. I have just tried to make the point that the Koran kissing event is something only John Paul II can explain, and has nothing to do with any sort of ecumenical welcoming of the Koran's doctrines. If you still disagree with that, it's OK with me. You're very welcome to your point of view on this or any other matter.


120 posted on 12/19/2004 5:57:08 PM PST by risk
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